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TCB13 OP , 8 months ago to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi

You may want to have a read at this: lemmy.world/comment/5357961. The Pi is becoming the least consumer friendly SBC and a money grab like no other.

TCB13 OP , 8 months ago to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi

That “SBC” has a strange price point because it is Intel and costs 250$. For 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways.

TCB13 OP , 8 months ago to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi

You’re ignoring the fact that you need accessories that will up your cost to the 100$ range. Either way, fine, there are now 4 and 5th gen HP Mini PCs selling for 50-70$. Want even cheaper then look for i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM, you’ll find 40$ complete machines that run faster and are way better than a Pi. All of those options come with power adapters and all the things required to get it going.

TCB13 OP , 8 months ago (edited 8 months ago) to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi

• HP Mini with an i5 8th gen = 35W
• RPi 5 = 27W

Do you really think that will make a difference. For what’s worth how much do you pay to have a 35W device running all year? In my case I’m paying a crazy 0,157€/kW… Amounts to 35/100024365*0.157 = 48.14€/year considering a full load that the machine never has.

TCB13 OP , 8 months ago to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi

Yeah sure.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/547ed5f4-c249-4d70-85ee-973aac252b53.png

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TCB13 OP , 8 months ago to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi

SBCs in the past the issue ends up being drivers. (…) outside that ecosystem with very little in the way of support for whatever oddball hardware your board has.

The RPi does have a nice ecosystem but the trick is to pick a board supported by Armbian - that will ensure future kernel updates and low level things working fine. For instance I’ve been using a NanoPi M4v2 since 2018 with a RK3399 CPU mind that at that time it already had a PCIe x2 interface, 4GB of RAM and was cheaper than the Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ from the same year that had Ethernet shared with the USB bus.

TCB13 OP , 8 months ago to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi

Is it $60 or less? Everytime one of these alternative boards with an assload of more features pops up, nobody bothers to mention the price

Have you considered that if you buy a RPi5 today it wont be 60$? Either if that’s your price point, depending in your use case, there might be better options. For a NAS for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME. For electronics Radxa Zero 3W / Zero 3E.

TCB13 OP , 8 months ago to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi

However, sometimes you need GPIOs especially for school projects.

Yes but think about this, for a simple school/electronics project you can get even an old RPi 2B+ for around 10$ nowadays that will get the job done. For a NAS / media center / selfhosting any second hand machine will be a better choice. I wouln’t even mix the two into a single board.

There are also other brand new cheap SBCs that might work for your electronics such as the Radxa Zero 3W or the Zero 3E or even the Raspberry Pi Zero W. The point is that it doesn’t make sense to buy a standard and expensive RPi for things that don’t require much CPU. If you don’t really need an OS and you code C or MicroPython a 3.5$ ESP32 board as well.

TCB13 OP , 8 months ago to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi

Oh his point stands, as soon as you add a case and a power adapter/cable you’re near 100$.

TCB13 OP , 8 months ago (edited 8 months ago) to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi

If you’re looking for cheap… what would recommend is instead a Mini-PC like the HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM or the Dell OptiPlex 3050 Micro.

For a small NAS and self-host a few services even an old laptop will do it, however there are advantages to picking a mini PC. Those machines are quiet, don’t require much power and some can even fit a 2.5" hard drive so you won’t need external hard drive enclosures. More on that later.

For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.

Aside from the big brands like HP and Dell there are other alternatives such as the trendy MINISFORUM however their BIOS comes out of the factory with weird bugs and the hardware isn’t as reliable - missing ESD protection on USB in some models and whatnot.

TCB13 , 8 months ago to linux in Nextcloud as Personal Cloud – Brno Hat

Seems a lot more frequent to me than what you describe, but yes it can be something related to the webmail.

Here examples of warnings and errors that are constantly spammed to the console:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3d14c210-b469-4bff-90e2-e6ad15179cd8.jpeg

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/df8bcac4-87c5-49a2-a913-ed12851cd104.jpeg

And there is the smallest message compose window the world has even seen:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/aacddcbc-2038-4b15-99cb-d34ce85f724e.jpeg

Just because “it makes sense”, you’re required to use an hidden menu to enable formatting tools in every single message you want to type, no global toggle available in settings:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0a95bb3b-9938-4f6e-8fb8-eb1e6a236f01.jpeg

And obviously that Nextcloud wouldn’t do it like any sane WYSIWYG since Office was announced in 1988. You to select text to get into the formatting tools, no way to have a permanent toolbar at the top:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4089d193-fcd1-4631-91f0-424a5c1ff684.jpeg

And of course, here it is the infamous bullets that never get rendered:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d6de22c5-b157-4673-b232-651533911548.jpeg

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c85784b8-9c04-46df-b0b1-05b07b466bd9.jpeg

If you send the email they’re there, but the editor never shows them.

And that was it, Nextcloud in 2023.

TCB13 , 8 months ago to programmerhumor in I did not ASCII that coming

Myths.

TCB13 , 8 months ago to linux in Nextcloud as Personal Cloud – Brno Hat

That said, the webUI doesn’t lag at all for me and I have no errors or warnings in the console.

Maybe its just because you’re not using the webmail, that thing is just poor taste.

Are you sure you set everything up properly?

Yes, I tried the full manual installation, docker images and whatnot, all about the same. About the lag… most time it’s not the UI lagging but every action is slow, takes time to load even on high end hardware. AMD Ryzen 7 5700X + 32 GB of RAM + NVMe Samsung 980 Pro 2TB.

TCB13 , 8 months ago to linux in ISC DHCP Client and Relay End of Maintenance

I just told you a few…

TCB13 , 8 months ago to linux in Nextcloud as Personal Cloud – Brno Hat

I can say I get your point however 30 users isn’t “scalability”, it is just a normal family. I usually try to test random versions of Nextcloud from time to time to see it they’ve improved however I can’t even make it work properly for myself let alone 30 people.

I’m not sure what you consider “great experience” but a lagging webUI that spits dozens of warning and errors into the console doesn’t cut it for me. Let alone a piece of shit webmail that isn’t even capable of making a bullet list display properly or compose messages in a textarea larger than 200x200.