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TCB13 , to selfhosted in What's wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?
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Or one of the few people who tested the thing and spend time taking screenshots and pointing out issues unlike most others…

TCB13 , to selfhosted in What's wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?
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There’s a lot more complains, besides the Mail “app” is a big advertised features of it and is developed by the core team.

TCB13 , to selfhosted in What's wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?
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Seafile, that’s a name I haven’t heard in a very long time. How does that work in terms of self-hosting limitations, mobile clients and sync? Do you have any experience with Synching for instance? How does it compare performance wise?

TCB13 , to linux in [Rant] A few days ago, I asked if Mint would run okay on a Lenovo T460 (I appreciate all the advice). I got it working, but the installation was a big pain and I totally blame Lenovo.
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Depends on the line… the high end enterprise products (EliteBooks) are very solid and good, they also provide very good servicing, every piece of those machines is replaceable even screws have serial numbers and can be ordered from HP.

ProBooks are a mixed batch, some are decent others are total garbage. Consumer grade HP mostly follows the same trend, if you go for machines that are “Apple-priced” they’re good, otherwise crap. Still not as crap as Lenovo became after China.

TCB13 , to linux in [Rant] A few days ago, I asked if Mint would run okay on a Lenovo T460 (I appreciate all the advice). I got it working, but the installation was a big pain and I totally blame Lenovo.
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Hardware recommendations are really hard, brands to a lot of shit and there are a LOT of small details that make it so a small revision on the same model can make or break compatibility with any OS… even worse for Linux. Windows has tons of specifics hacks to work on specific hardware and they aren’t pretty.

For me, personally I always got the best result with HP EliteBooks from 2 or 3 generations bellow the current one and the latest Debian. But again, that’s just personal experience, nobody can guarantee you that you won’t pick a very specific EliteBook with some awkward detail and things will fail.

TCB13 , (edited ) to linux in [Rant] A few days ago, I asked if Mint would run okay on a Lenovo T460 (I appreciate all the advice). I got it working, but the installation was a big pain and I totally blame Lenovo.
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That’s what you get when you buy Lenovo. It can’t even run Windows properly most of the time how did you expect it to run Linux?

Seriously if you go into any large company and ask why they don’t use Lenovo they’ll simply tell you that the failure rate of those machines is way to high to be worth it. Like order 50 and only 10 are in working condition after 2 years… or a simple USB 3 cable running along the computer will make it slow because there isn’t enough shielding on the machine and the high frequency of those cables interferes with your storage controller / NVMe.

TCB13 , to selfhosted in What's wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?
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Dropbox is faster.

Dropbox is A LOT faster than NC ever was. But if you want to talk about speeds and reliability then use Synching. Add FileBrowser if you want to have a WebUI on a central “server” to access all your files and you’ll be 100x better than the garbage that NC offers.

TCB13 , to selfhosted in What's wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?
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  • fast and reliable. Add FileBrowser if you want to have a WebUI on a central “server” to access all your files and you’ll be 100x better than the garbage that NC offers.
TCB13 , to selfhosted in What's wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?
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Run it on a “normal” server and everything is smooth.

Sure until you try with a high end 12 core CPU on NVMe storage all kinds of caching, redis etc. and you find you it doesn’t perform particularly better.

TCB13 , to selfhosted in What's wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?
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but the influence that PHP may have over your data access patterns can be a source of significant performance problems.

Let me rephrase that for you: the influence that poorly written PHP code, an utter and total disregard for good software development practices and the general ineptitude shown by the NC developers have over your data access patterns is the source of significant performance problems. We also have to consider all the client side issues, poor decisions and a general lack of any testing.

Fixed :)

TCB13 , to selfhosted in What's wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?
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Likely because it’s mainly written in PHP and the default database is SQLite

Maybe the issue isn’t the technologies but rather the complete and utter ineptitude of NC’s developers and bullshit decisions their business team makes. Every tool is a great tool if you know how to use it properly.

TCB13 , to selfhosted in What's wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?
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You can do all of that and NC will still be the piece of shirt that is it is fail to sync stuff.

TCB13 , (edited ) to selfhosted in What's wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?
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What’s wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?

Yes it’s a pile of shit. Nextcloud is garbage, very bad usability, more reasons and issues listed here: lemmy.world/comment/1571886 and lemmy.world/comment/346174

Is there a technical reason why it’s slow and clunky? Any problematic choices with how it was built?

Yes, like every single technical decision and line of code they’ve ever made. lemmy.world/comment/5490189

There’s software that while good intended is simply garbage and NextCloud is a good example. They constantly market themselves as the self-hosted alternative to MS Office 365 / Google yet they never deliver.

TCB13 , to technology in European Union: Designated gatekeepers must now comply with all obligations under the Digital Markets Act
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that EU seems to be the only world government to actually stand up against this late stage capitalism dystopia

The EU isn’t a government, but I’ll allow it for now. :P

TCB13 , to linuxmemes in We get it, it hit 4%
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Let me make this simple for everyone. There’s only a real metric for “the year of the desktop Linux” and that’s whenever Microsoft and Adobe release full featured versions of all their products for Linux. Not slimmed down web versions, no emulation/virtualization/-insert.hack- BS.

Get used it the idea, I know it hurts, but it’s true.

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