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Laxaria ,

Exactly. The colossal lost of trust is not easy to regain (if it can ever be regained at all) and that’s will be a specter haunting Unity’s economic performance for the years to come. I’ve seen so much outpouring of support for Godot and other open source / free game engines, and really hope that support continues.

Laxaria ,

As long as websites/advertisers see their visitors as using a Chromium based browser they will continue to target for Chromium, regardless of whatever front facing UI is used.

The inherent problem is Google has an outsized voice in Chromium’s developmental trajectory, and any major changes to Chromium will have downstream impacts, whether in actual implemented feature sets or forks making continued modifications on top.

The best way to protest is to not use a Chromium browser. Switching from Chrome to another Chromium browser is at best a side grade; everyone using Chromium is subject to Google’s whimsy.

Pragmatically it doesn’t matter if Microsoft chooses not to implement it; as long as Edge is on Chromium, Google can leverage this to continue to bully the web to their own devices.

Laxaria ,

A number of instances defederated from it because… well, the reason a number of people are here is to not be on Reddit and seeing a mass deluge of content ported from Reddit defeats that purpose. There other other reasons too, like the fact it makes a ton of submissions and each has very few if no comments leading to the impression of a very barren community.

Laxaria ,

Yep since the first party app’s primary goal is to generate revenue (over actually providing a good user experience), it’s packed full of everything to achieve revenue generation:

  • Ads
  • Tons of tracking to figure out how long you viewed something, what you clicked on, and so on to build an advertising profile that can be sold
  • Obtrusive Ads
  • Lots of suggested/recommended stuff to get you to keep your eyeballs on the app longer
  • Ads masquerading as real submissions
  • Paid promotions

Third party apps don’t have revenue generation as their sole highest priority (if at all), so naturally they strip out all of that stuff which makes for a terrible user experience.

(Controversial) Should lemmy.world close registrations at a certain user count?

To support decentralization and spread, should lemmy.world close registration at some point to prevent a performance overload due to too many users? Of course, if registration is disabled, there could be a hint placed somewhere near that from other instances you can interact with content on lemmy.world just like you had...

Laxaria ,

One of the great things about lemmy.world’s insane user count growth is actual live stress testing of Lemmy software. Instead of having an open question of how Lemmy might scale with large instances, there’s now real world production systems providing that opportunity.

The technical issues will pass, but the notion that merely spreading out the load will alleviate them is probably just treating the symptom than the cause.

I suppose from my PoV I see this as very much live testing in production and have adjusted my expectations around that instead of anticipating a wholly seamless experience.

Laxaria ,

The content porting really only means something when it’s not overwhelming and the person doing the content porting is actively planning to participate in the submissions.

The easiest way to get someone to not comment on something is a wall of submissions with a fair number of upvotes and few to no comments. At this point, it’s just a glorious RSS feed rather than an actual community.

Driving user growth actually requires putting in the leg work to make meaningful submissions, following-up on them, commenting on submissions, and upvoting content. All of this takes actual effort though. A bot content porting content from Reddit to Lemmy doesn’t do much and for a number of people, looks much more like artificial engagement rather than any meaningfully sincere attempt at growing a community.

Some of the (World/US) News and Politics related communities are so barren of comments despite the deluge of content porting submissions, while other communities have blown up into their own distinct thing because people are making sincere, organic (enough) submissions.

Laxaria ,

Due to the nature of Federation, don’t hesitate to make accounts on different instances as needed to access that instance’s content. I reckon a number of people have accounts on Beehaw and accounts elsewhere.

Laxaria ,

Yea unfortunately the nature of Federation means that instances (servers) are dissociated from each other but nonetheless communicate with each other via a standardized protocol. Consequently, there is nothing stopping one instance from saying they want to stop communicating with another instance

In some situations that makes sense. For example, if you are running an instance and don’t want to get people/content from another instance that posts incredibly hateful messages, you can choose to defederate from that instance.

In other situations it creates complications. For example, if you are on a somewhat popular instance (like Lemmy.world) but then get defederated from an instance you want to participate in (like Beehaw.org), even if the defederation came from justifiable reasons, you will need a Beehaw account in order to view that content as you won’t be able to access new content from Beehaw.org using your Lemmy.world account.

For the most part, in pragmatic terms what this really means is if one wants to participate in the most active instances, they’ll probably want an account on an instance that federates with the biggest instances.

Laxaria ,

Yep.

So I have one primary account on Lemmy.world and then have additional accounts localized to those instances.

For the time being things are a bit of a hassle because there’s no good way to migrate from one instance to another and bring your data with you, and the underlying lemmy software is still in development.

Effectively we’re doing this in production!

Laxaria ,

Wikipedia has done well for itself using donation runs and grassroots support, so if there are ways for instances to do similar the decentralized nature of this will work out ok.

Elsewhere the issue is many of these large services have grown to the size of effectively being a public good, but good luck maintaining a public good in a profit generating way as a private company seeking the next quarter’s growth.

Laxaria ,

Companies want a unicorn without paying for it.

Or they could (a) invest in their existing staff to keep them on at far less, or (b) be willing to train.

Labor isn’t seen as a resource but rather an expense. The way so many companies treat their employees is wholly predicated on seeing them as a cost center (much like It) and not an asset they are selling/loaning for revenue.

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