LadyAutumn

LadyAutumn , 4 days ago

Fascists do not see trans people as human beings. It’s not a matter of thinking. They literally view trans kids as subhuman and want to implement a state apparatus to forcefully abuse them with conversion therapy.

LadyAutumn , 4 days ago

Not to nitpick, but the article posits that his new best friend is Kim Jong Un and that China is unhappy with this development.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago (edited 11 days ago)

So we cant compete if we have ever had testosterone in our blood, even though cis women also have blood testosterone and can undergo testosterone related hormonal puberty if they have certain conditions, and also we are not allowed to transition before the age of 16 which would mean we had undergone some measure of testosterone hormonal puberty. Also, the concept of “male puberty” is awfully ill-defined isnt it. Have cis women with PCOS gone through “male puberty” ? What specifically constitutes “male puberty”? What hormonal levels are necessary to qualify for “male puberty”? Can Cis men with hormonal deficiency disorders compete in womens sports? To what end does this ruling “protect women’s sports”? This does nothing in a sport that has 1 single trans female athlete except specifically ban her from competing under some misguided notion of “fairness”. I’d love to see them describe how excluding anyone is meant to protect anything, let alone fairness. When will height categories be instituted? When will we make wingspan brackets? How exactly is this competition meant to be fair to begin with?

So this is just a de facto ban on trans women participating in any sports under this organization. Nice. Just say that then. No woman is going to accept being forced to compete in a men’s category, so all you have done is single out and exclude one group of women based on their status as transgender. Creating an “open” bracket does nothing either, as there are probably only 1 or 2 trans athletes who would be competing in this organization anyway.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

There aren’t enough trans people to facilitate such an event. Most of us are also impoverished and have extremely poor life outcomes as adults by comparison with cisgender people of the same relative class. So there are very few of us to begin with, fewer who are interested in athletics, and much fewer who have any real ability to compete in athletic competitions.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

The categories are gender segregated. It’s not that no woman would ever do so or want to; it’s that banning a woman from women’s sports is saying that she’s not a woman. That’s the very point of the category to begin with. Forcing a woman to compete in men’s category is declaring her to be a man, which is something the overwhelming majority of women would not stand for.

Recall the controversy surrounding Caster Semenya. She was very much declared not to be a woman by an international sporting organization.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

To compete with men? Afaik most organizations do not have rules explicity banning women from men’s sports. Not sure what you’re talking about.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

It’s not a genetic difference, for one, it’s a hormonal one. Children pre-puberty are effectively identical in terms of physiological gender differences aside from environmental factors.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

I’m genuinely not sure what you’re asking. Your comment doesn’t make sense.

I answered the question you asked initially in my second comment.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

Not sure how you not making sense is my fault exactly, but okay.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

Kind of a contradiction in that trans women aren’t female bit lol. Very much depends on how you define that and how you measure it.

The categories are also not called female categories, they’re called women’s categories, which is effectively the same thing in this conversation. Female is a loose category encompassing people with many typed of bodies and many hormonal levels and many degrees of feminization and masculinization. This is effectively excluding one group of women specifically and ignoring all other groups that have advantages.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

Are there no cis women with large wing spans or abnormal height, though? Are they still allowed to compete? Why would trans women specifically be excluded for that?

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

Sex and gender are effectively the same thing for this conversation. We consistently refer to female athletes as women and the terms are entirely interchangeable here. Sex is also a socially constructed category based around certain anatomies and characteristics. Gender is assigned the same way sex is. Sex is not the hardline objective reality it’s being treated as here. Women with CAIS are not forbidden from “female sports”. Similarly, women with PCOS who have high T are not banned from “female sports”.

I’m not male. No part of me is male. My legal sex has been changed. If we’re separating people into male and female, I’m placed into the female group.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

So again why are cisgender women who are above average allowed to compete but transgender women are CATEGORICALLY not allowed to compete even if we’re within the average for all women?

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

So it’s just a ban on trans women from sports, just because with no actual logic or ethical rationale behind it. Even though it is literally not fair, and the justification provided for it is “fairness”. Gotcha.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

Lots of things? There’s no one single thing that affects hormones. Not every person with a specific anatomy has the same hormones.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

Intersex people exist and the variation of people assigned one sex or the other is damn near infinite so no, the assertion that sex is binary is really only ever used to exclude transgender people and intersex people from rights and to assert that there is a biological basis for assigned gender roles. Sex is dimorphic because we choose to describe it that way, we could just as easily have more sexes just by creating more categories based on aspects of human physiology.

And I’m female, so the only ethical rationale would be that I would compete with other people that we consider female.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago (edited 11 days ago)

It’s objectively the truth that sex is another class category created by humans to sort people and enforce a hierarchy of sex. That argument (trans women are male women) was adopted to appeal to cisgender people.

I’m female, I am a woman. I’m not male. My legal sex is female.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

So any woman stronger than the average for women ought to also be excluded then? Again, why is it specific that trans women be excluded?

There are not and likely will not be anywhere near enough trans people to occupy a single category at a single event. Refusing to allow trans women to compete as women, like every other woman, is a de facto ban on transgender women participating in sporting events. Transgender women are women, just like tall women are women and women with large lung capacity are women. Why should trans women be excluded for being above average but other women who are above average shouldn’t be?

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

Can you define male puberty though? Like qualitatively in specific terms and with specific language?

Being pro trans is being pro women. Excluding some women from women’s sports would be discriminatory to those women. In this case those women are transgender, and they are being excluded because they are transgender. Which would be opposed to their right to participate, a right we recognize for all other women and girls. That would be anti trans, in this specific context. It doesn’t mean you oppose all of trans rights, but you’re actively supporting the exclusion of trans people from professional athletics.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago (edited 11 days ago)

So de facto banning some women from any kind of professional sporting competition is acceptable because it’s too much work to include them? Why is that acceptable to you? And why is it necessary to couch these concepts in discussions about fairness when you yourself admit they are not fair? Excluding female people from female categories seems counterproductive to any attempts at providing level playing fields for women and girls in professional athletics.

Also there are other groups of women that are on average more physically capable then the average for women as a whole. Should they also be excluded?

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

So cis women with CAIS (XY) are out too then.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

But there are more than 2 observable variations of humans.

There have also been many cultures with more 2 than sexes/genders (the difference is literally 0 prior to the 50s).

And animals have genitals but they do not have conceptions of sex. They don’t abstract categories from physical attributes they just recognize and respond to the bodies around them.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

Preventing trans women from competing in women’s sports is a ban on trans women in sports. Trans women do not have testosterone levels anywhere near cis male levels. And none of us are going to degrade ourselves by being categorized as men.

If you would make trans women compete against men then you’re saying trans women aren’t women. It’s as simple as that.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago (edited 11 days ago)

Most of the trans community absolutely does not agree that trans women should be excluded from women’s sports, no clue where you’re getting that from.

And trans women are women, excluding us from women’s sports is literally not fair. We are not men, nor are we male. So we are not going to compete in men sports or male categories.

And if we don’t make sports fair for everyone then why are you talking about fairness?? If it’s not fair already then what materially is lost by trans women competing?

Say a transgender woman wins at a competition in women’s sports, what materially has been lost here? A woman won a women’s sporting event. What is happening that is unfair?? She’s female, she’s a woman, so how can you assert that she shouldn’t be able to participate in women’s sports? To what end? What is lost by letting the half a dozen trans female athletes in the world compete?

The literal only justification for it is a fundamental belief that trans women are not female or are not women. Any other attempt at justifying it falls apart at the seams because there are more outlier women physically than there are transgender women at all, so banning transgender women but allowing outlier women to compete is literally just banning us cause we’re trans.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

So yeah it isn’t fair, so we can stop saying that excluding trans women is about fairness then.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

True! Yes trans men should be allowed to compete in men’s categories. I think they are strictly speaking so long as their T levels aren’t abnormally high (same as all men).

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

Trans women are not male.

The bar for entry is and has always been several years of sustained hormone therapy with normal estrogen and testosterone levels. And even that is far too restrictive.

What about groups of cisgender women who are above the physical average for women as a whole? Why is the proposal to ban transgender women and not other groups/classes of women based on them being on par above average? I mean is it fair for women from South Korea to compete against women from the Netherlands? Should women from the Netherlands be banned from competition? They have an average advantage, so it’s unfair to the rest of the women that they’re allowed at all.

Your essential argument has to be that transgender women are not women. There is no other argument for excluding trans women that adequately explains why it’s necessary for trans women to be excluded and not anyone else.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

A baby. Are it’s genitals relevant somehow?

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

I mean where else would you want them to compete? Are there trans men out there demanding to compete in women’s sports? If sports is sex or gender segregated than yeah they should compete with men.

LadyAutumn , 11 days ago

Trans women are not fucking testosterone brutes. We’re women. I have literally 0 blood testosterone. I am post op and do not produce literally any testosterone.

LadyAutumn , 12 days ago

Youre thinking of laissez-faire capitalism, maybe even libertarian capitalism?

America is absolutely capitalist in every sense of the term. The entire nation is corporatized and the government has no particularly influential anti-capitalist entities. Both competing parties are capitalist. The social framework by which we raise children is structured to indoctrinate them into the ideologies of neoliberalism and American economic exceptionalism. The propaganda that American society is meritocratic is enforced throughout our entire lives, all with the aim of suppressing the class consciousness of the working class.

People are responding to you with derision because what you’re saying doesn’t make any sense. Capitalism and socialism are not based entirely on hard rules. They’re both economic ideologies and social philosophies packaged into cultural frameworks. America is actively anti socialist. They have a very long history of anti communism and anti workers’ rights. America is the holotype of post-Reagan neoliberal capitalism. It is one of the worst countries in the world in terms of wealth disparity and income inequality. It is one of the least regulated economic powers in history, with it being open knowledge that billionaires rule the country and can essentially do anything they want without facing any kind of material consequences.

LadyAutumn , 12 days ago

There is no aspect of the US that is in any sense communist. Communism refers very specifically to a style of government which directly owns and controls the means of production across all forms of industry. This style of government is controlled by the proletariat. That is not the case for any industry in the US. The link you provided is propaganda not based on any actual communist beliefs. Communism is not a “command based” anything, it is a philosophy with regards to the distribution of the means of production and how the fruits of the working class’s labor should be shared.

worldpopulationreview.com/…/gini-coefficient-by-c…

The US gini coefficient is 39.8 as of 2021. Making it one of the worst countries in the world for income inequality. There are plenty of areas in the southern states especially where entire towns are below the poverty line, some very significantly below it.

LadyAutumn , 12 days ago

Considering all the other listed countries are classified as developing nations, no yeah it’s one of the worst in the world lol. It’s worth it for you to read up on how the gini coefficient is calculated.

Also, it is ranked 57th when sorted worst to best. It is sorted at 120th from best to worst. Worse than 119 other nations.

And no, you’re again misusing the term communism. Communism isn’t a scale it refers specifically to a state in which the means of production are shared collectively amongst the working class. You’ve invented a thing and then are using your own invention to sort terms that have actual meanings not related to your invented scale

America is also not a mixed economy, what are you on about? What industry is public in the US? Most of the states don’t even have public power services. Essentially, none have public medical services.

There are many sources online that can explain the distinction for you. Check what you’re reading and from where, as America is incredibly biased against socialism and there are entire corporations dedicated to spreading anti-socialist propaganda.

LadyAutumn , 18 days ago

Butchers. Child mass murderers. Anyone who tries to defend these acts lacks any semblance of humanity.

LadyAutumn , 19 days ago

No? Israel is and has always been the deciding factor in whatever happens with Palestine. They refused a legitimate 2 state solution, continuously have stolen land from the west bank and Gaza, and are openly genocidal towards Palestinians?

How can you both sides this in a comment thread under an article about a zionist literally trying to pay off an American politician to support the Israeli government in committing crimes against humanity?

LadyAutumn , 19 days ago (edited 19 days ago)

“Would have”

Cool, but I don’t care about this weird hypothetical world you’re talking about that we do not live in and have never lived in. The Israeli military is armed by the United States with american weapons. The IDF, with American guns and missiles and planes and tanks, is in no way threatened by what a group of disenfranchised Muslim extremists can cobble together. It’s never even been close, not in 1949 and not for one second since then. They are essentially prisoners of the state. They are disenfranchised. They do not have access to land to till and raise animals in. They do not have freedom of movement. The water they have is controlled by Israel, the electricity they have is controlled by Israel, the medical supplies they have are controlled by Israel. The strip is an open air enclave. The west bank is and has been slowly being annexed by Israel (crime against humanity) over the last 60 years.

You’re talking about a population of 2 million people with 1 struggling to operate hospital. Who have been mass murdered thousands of times over the last 100 years by the IDF and Israeli state. This road does not go both ways and it never has. They literally mowed starving Palestinian men women children and elderly down with machine guns. People following a truck carrying flour because they are desperate for food. There are children starving to death in hospitals. We have people who need medications to survive dying because the IDF and the Israeli state and the zionists are doing everything they possibly can to prevent them for getting those things.

It’s time for you to open your fucking eyes. You’re trying to both sides a genocide, equating the genociders with the victims.

You referred to “Arabs in the area” in another comment of yours too, equating hamas with all Muslim people in the middle east. Ask yourself why you’re generalizing a population of hundreds of millions of people and claiming they are all genocidally antisemitic.

LadyAutumn , 19 days ago

Mhm. Goodbye zionist.

LadyAutumn , 21 days ago

God how I hope it’s true. I hope they take his cars, they take his home, literally everything this man owns. He deserves it. He knew exactly what the fuck he was doing, and now the feds have come to collect. He had plenty of chances, hundreds of chances to prevent this.

LadyAutumn , 25 days ago

A big hearty fuck you and fuck off to her. The Overton window has not moved that far. The gap has just widened as the conservative right moves into open fascism.

LadyAutumn , 28 days ago

Medical gatekeeping is also very much a problem. I started petitioning for bottom surgery 6 years before I was actually able to get it. Not because of any wait list or qualifications or anything like that. Purely because my doctor and my counselor thought I wasn’t ready. Getting a new doctor here (Eastern Canada) takes close to a decade. So I had to wait till they decided I was ready. I was repeatedly told that my poor mental health made it so I couldn’t get surgery. My mental health never magically got better. They just eventually changed their minds and gave me referrals. Having bottom surgery saved my life and dramatically improved my mental health. I spent 6 years in abject misery when I could’ve gotten the surgery to begin with and spent that much more time happy and moving forward with my life.

I’m very happy to have had it and I for once in my life see a future for myself and a life that is worth living. But there is definitely a bitterness about the way that multiple health professionals all seemingly misunderstood that my anatomy was a significant contributor to my poor mental health.

LadyAutumn , 30 days ago

Misogyny is subversive. It’s capable of being internalized. It is consistent. The ideology behind it is enforced in subtle ways throughout the entirety of our lives. We become accustomed to it, expectant of it. We are trained to accept it and be tolerant of it. Misogyny can seem beneficial to certain women, and those will readily accept it and become ignorant of the consequences it has for them.

Misogyny also doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It exists alongside white supremacy, xenophobia, queerphobia, ableism, classism, and other forms of social oppression. Women can identify with and ideologically support any of those systems of oppression. All of them interconnect, though. Each system is built partially on the foundations of the others. They all affect each other. Being a white supremacist doesn’t make you a misogynist, but those 2 things are ideologically consistent with each other. White supremacists tend to support misogynists and vice versa.

When we realize Misogyny not simply as a singular concept on its own, but rather a socially constructed one interconnected with different systems of power - it’s actually very conceivable for women to be misogynists and actively participate in the oppression of women. They are able to firstly distance themselves from the group being oppressed using logic like “I’m an oppresser, I am not oppressed.” Then they are welcomed into the greater sphere of social bigotry and systems of power. White supremacists uphold patriarchal households and white mothers, for instance. Xenophobic households uphold women and mothers from their nation and who share their religion. They are upheld not as a form of empowerment but as an example by which to compare others.

I can’t say exactly why this woman specifically has chosen to actively participate in the subjugation of women, but it is a predictable phenomenon and, unfortunately, part of the strategy of fascism.

LadyAutumn , 1 month ago (edited 1 month ago)

How do you think they train models to generate CSAM?

Some of yall need to lookup what an LoRA is

LadyAutumn , 1 month ago

It should be illegal either way, to be clear. But you think theyre not training models on CSAM? Youre trusting in the morality/ethics of people creating AI generated child pornography?

LadyAutumn , 1 month ago

I think they meant in the context of the founder

LadyAutumn , 1 month ago (edited 1 month ago)

Oil CEOs pay fines for bringing about a global climate catastrophe. Fascist politicians are given slaps on the wrist for an attempted coup d’etat. Government officials openly commit gross violations of privacy and suffer no consequences.

But a guy hacks a university network and downloads a hoard of scientific articles that should have been freely accessible to begin with and he gets 35 years in prison. I’ll admit I wasn’t familiar with this case before I saw this picture. Which is kind of insane in and of itself.

LadyAutumn , 1 month ago

If he remembers, bless his forgetful little head.

Sadly, if he doesn’t, his many fascist benefactors will. The transgender community exists in an existential horror where a genocidal fascist movement slowly builds itself against us, but it’s being led by some of the most idiotic repugnant people who have ever lived. One Google search can immediately dismantle 99% of the nonsense they say about us, but it doesn’t matter because no one who supports them cares.

LadyAutumn , 1 month ago

The government specifically targeting the well-being of minority children is sickening. Medical decisions rest between a patient and their healthcare professional who, unlike lawmakers, are actually trained to provide that care.

It’s hard to quantify the mental toll these endless attacks have on our whole community. Transgender youth have already had to deal with many institutional barriers to accessing hormones and hormone suppressants that save their lives. Now they have to contend not only with constant political attacks against them and a coordinated effort at genociding their entire community, buy also with the state outting them to parents who may abuse them if they find out. Many children are abused at home, a staggering amount actually. Queer children are significantly more likely to suffer abuse in their homes.

These laws are attempts to kill children, to prevent queer children from being allowed to openly be themselves. These children live under constant fear of the state. Their government is actively hostile towards them and their rights. There is a persistent and growing fear amongst everyone in our community that it is only a matter of time before a state decides to force all trans people into conversion therapy and forced internment. These kids know that too. They’re not stupid they see what is happening. Genocide is anything but subtle, and the fascists have been declaring their intentions towards us loudly for years now.

LadyAutumn , 1 month ago

If we lived in a sane world this would be cause enough for a mass insurrectionary revolution against the state. Fuck every single one of those legislators. They should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. The things described in that article are crimes against humanity.