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juergen_hubert , to folklore
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The Venetians knew how to find the riches of the German mountain ranges.

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@juergen_hubert @TheDailyBurble @germany @folklore ah, overlooked the additional minerals, right... That might be the thing! Something something for blueish colouring?

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Each St. John's Day, the spirit of the Kirchsee lake sought a boy from the nearby village as a victim to drown - until one priest managed to stop him.

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@smitty @juergen_hubert @germany @folklore Gaiman is well educated in this field and indeed several Slavic (Baltic) myths and folk tales did have an influence here

KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@raymccarthy @juergen_hubert @smitty @germany @folklore huh, imagining the then common clothing from wool and fur coated skins - soaking within seconds, really easy to drown fast

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Once, the Devil tried confessing his sins, and receive the sacrament of absolution.

Which was rather awkward, for all concerned.

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@silo_bear @juergen_hubert @germany @folklore 'layman Christianity' regularly gets this wrong (eh, am not even one myself, funnily ^^). In Job for example, the devil is adresses as 'Satanael', the suffix declaring Him as an angelic being, fulfilling G-ds will.
About the fall etc, this has been mostly a political rant against the late Assyrian King who waged war and - to the luck of Israel - died unexpectedly (the star that has fallen), book Isaiah.
Stuff went really shitway when translations

KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@juergen_hubert @silo_bear @germany @folklore hehe, or could have gone for 'sure, but what's in it for me?' :D

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The Wild Huntsman was a Catholic priest in life who slew a sacred stag on Christmas Eve.

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@juergen_hubert @germany @folklore Annoying a stag never goes out well

KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@juergen_hubert @germany @folklore slaying a boar meant conquering & gaining dominion for the ruler (mind Gunther's amulet in the Nibelungenlied)... Whilst the sight and maybe communication with the stag is appreciation from the 'royalty' and well, kingslaying is a trope usually not encouraged in folk tales for obvious reason ^^

juergen_hubert , to folklore
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If you cannot stop the wrath of a supernatural spirit, then maybe you can at least redirect it to some people you don't care about as much.

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@luigirenna @greenspindle @juergen_hubert @germany @folklore hailing from Italy? The alpine region, including the nowadays Italian parts, knows a distinct spirit / deity with 'perchta' who is a close relative to Holle/Hel.
According to some highly intriguing theories maybe even the older and original form (Hel is a rather late addition to the Norse pantheon anyway).

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Landlords never tell you the whole story about the apartment you are renting.

Even though things like "there is a ghost that stalks young mothers in the house" is pretty vital information!

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@juergen_hubert @modulux @germany @folklore
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7089241-the-return-of-the-dead

There's a good bit on Roman lore in it + reference to the source texts

KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@juergen_hubert @modulux @germany @folklore IIRC in this one (or might be another of his) he also covers the Roman legislative, how the recently dead are obliged to do chores like cleaning public toilets if subjected to because of... Not remembering exactly, some yet open debts

juergen_hubert , to folklore
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The dead just want to be left alone, and the living need to respect that.

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@TruthSandwich @juergen_hubert @germany @folklore no further exchange than a brief chat. Most fatal is accepting food - sharing a meal with the dead will result in inevitable death

juergen_hubert , to folklore
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In the Saterland, people had their own ideas on how to protect yourself from night hags.

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@juergen_hubert @germany @folklore read up a bit (wasn't aware of them existing) on this group, how fascinating! So very often, patriarchal heroic tales supersede and eliminate the 'small grandmother hearth-tales'. Are there more tales of that kind from that region you are aware of?

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@AimeeMaroux @smutstodon @antiquidons nudity in art - fun stuff to find when taking pictures at odd angles

juergen_hubert , to folklore
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Female water spirits have to adhere to a strict curfew - and the penalty for breaking it is death.

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@juergen_hubert @germany @folklore Uuuuh am always in for water / well / fresh spring spirits, lovely one!

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If you work in the German countryside, you will end up seeing some strange stuff.

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@juergen_hubert @germany @folklore "nono, listen. I didn't fall asleep. Trust me, something REALLY weird happened last night and that's why Betsy's gone!"

KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@BlippyTheWonderSlug @juergen_hubert @germany @folklore sure, this is where the Pennsylvania Dutch and their hexcraft originated from...

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@joeygibson @juergen_hubert @germany @folklore yesssss, totally hilarious! 'The devil? Aye, just another bloody Calvinist!

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@raymccarthy @rorystarr @SimonRoyHughes @juergen_hubert @folklore @folklorethursday wasn't aware of that, thank you verily for pointing this out!

KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@raymccarthy @SimonRoyHughes @juergen_hubert @folklore @folklorethursday and yes, that such a fascist & racist pos ever got into such a position... Well, speaks for the system and its means of qualifications, eh? :/

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Near the town of Fürth, Emperor Charlemagne sleeps beneath a hill until his time has come again.

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

@juergen_hubert @mhd @germany @folklore uuuh this sounds fun!
And aye, the King under the Hill is a very ancient and present trope in Middle Europe, having close relation with (though more so in France) the Wild Hunt (if lead by King Herle / Harlequin)

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The magical tomes known as "Characters" give their owners the power to achieve anything they want.

But, sooner or later, the owners come to a bad end.

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KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

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Huh, late 19th century? Would have been after Scheible published the infamous 'Das Kloster' catalogue and (sigil based) folk magic was put into focus to a somewhat wider audience.

KonchogTenzenSangpo ,

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Of course! But also the specific phrasing of 'character'?
I always assumed (but that's rather guesswork) that this term found it's way via the Grimoires published in France via 'Bibliothèque Bleu', when a mass market also for spellbooks was established (like 'le caractère de Lucifuge Rofocale' in that infamous pseudo/parodic Grimoire)
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