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GiveMemes ,

There’s a Wikipedia article on US interventions but it misses some afaik.

GiveMemes ,

Clearly you’ve never bought linen :p

GiveMemes ,

It really isn’t that hard. It takes about 3-4 mins to iron a dress shirt to look pretty damn good compared to doing nothing for it at all not including the time for the iron to heat up. I also save time by using the steam button heavily and not being afraid to throw on a slightly damp and warm shirt. Still, when I decide to change my shirt right before I’m walking out the door and I only have 10 mins or I’m gonna miss my train I still always have time to throw the iron on and give it a once-over. Like yeah if you want all your garments absolutely perfectly ironed it might take a little longer, but you might just not have the technique down from lack of practice. For the record I’m gen z so idk if I’m just weird or if the meme is maybe not as universal as some think.

GiveMemes ,

I’m terrible at keeping track of things normally but I never lose my wallet or headphones. Seems like maybe a you problem.

GiveMemes ,

Violent crime has pretty consistently dropped for the past century in the US with a small blip in the 90s often attributed to the prevalence of leaded gasoline and the higher propensity for violence that people exposed to it often had.

School shootings still weren’t a big/common thing back then tho so I fail to see your point.

GiveMemes ,

Source for preschoolers in “the heroes program”?

GiveMemes ,

Sorry what context were we talking about? Oh yeah, school shootings. Also that’s still the point; it being a clear relationship. I don’t understand what your point is. You posed a whataboutism. They’re two different arguments.

If you want to talk about gun crime and reform broadly we can. First, in the case of things like mental health checks, how do we decide what makes someone fit to get a firearm? How do we decide who gets to make that decision? How are we going to regulate firearm sales? How do we make it possible for private sales to exist while enforcing background checks and without causing undue burden. Btw you know you already need to get a backhround check to get a firearm except in a few circumstances, right?The American pseudo-left is often frothing at the mouth for reform on this issue and has poorly formed (if any) ideas about what should actually go into place. It doesn’t help that most people are controlled by fear mongering more effectively than facts, especially those that don’t know much about guns.

Another pr9blem people have with gun control regulation is that it allows an authoritarian government to more easily defeat the populace. In every modern war, guerrillas, especially in urban areas, have the upper hand against modern militaries due to the need to project soft power and retain international support. If you think it’s never gonna happen here then you clearly haven’t been paying attention and if you’re gonna be one of those people that goes “bubut the military had bombs and jets” don’t even bother replying as you clearly haven’t been paying attention modern history and the successes across the world of resistance movements.

And it’s all great to say that the 20,000 people a year that die from guns (mostly suicide followed by active gang members engaged in gang violence, both activities prone to causing deaths regardless of accessibility to guns, but likely reduced) are a price that’s worth it to pay but there’s no realistic way that you’re disarming the American populace, only preventing new sales. This means that there will still be a huge amount of guns available for criminals, and as we’ve seen with drugs, banning something that people desire just causes a crime-ridden black market. Not to mention the immeasurable good that they could do against a tyrannical government.

On top of that, you can literally 3d print firearms now. It at least used to take some knowhow but now any scmuck can get into it with just a little bit of searching and a very minor investment. In that way, the cat’s out of the bag, and if the US gun market fails to supply criminals, especially organized crime, we know exactly what they’re going to do.

The key is building up social services in impoverished areas and removing the factors that push people towards crime. Improving our mental health infrastructure and social safety nets such that we have a violent crime rate that resembles other developed nations. Reducing the needless/baseless criminalization and overpolicing of poor and minority communities to reduce the trauma of communities growing up without fathers. Getting a handle on race relations, even between different poc groups, such that gangs become an unnecessary method of association. Not just zeroing in on the scary but useful tool that is the firearm, especially as it is the only true equalizer in society. “God created man but Samuel Colt made them equal”.

Not to mention how they allow women especially to stand up to violence they would otherwise have no chance against. Don’t give me the pepper spray and stun gun bs btw, I pity the person that thinks that will stop a large, angry man. If you’re truly interested in nonlethal means of self defense however, I believe the foaming/gel bear sprays would definitely stop an attacker, but they tend to be quite large and annoying to carry. Also, if you think armed self defense is unnecessary it’s only because you’ve never been in a situation where you wanted or tried to defend yourself but couldn’t. I don’t carry a weapon, but I’ve experienced things that make me feel like maybe I should’ve been and things would’ve gone differently.

Sorry for the long flow of consciousness style comment and I apologize if I attacked you at all I can sometimes get heated abt this subject.

School shootings are a miniscule issue though by the statistics. The problem is that we spectalize them with the 24 hour news cycle because it makes people angry and upset. This spectacle is also exactly the reward these murderers are seeking out. If the news was required to spend a proportionate amount of time on different subjects by how much they negatively impact your health on average (let’s say by how much they reduce the life expectancy of the average person), we should be banning cigarettes, alcohol, and added sugars long before guns. Why are we so focused on the guns? Why aren’t we focusing on reducing our ridiculous overweight and obesity rates? Because school shootings make you sad, like the WWF panda or the aspca commercial. Don’t get me wrong, they get me sad too, but our deeply damaged society is to blame, not guns.

GiveMemes ,

I don’t see the problem with teaching 7 year olds firearm safety. You’re throwing your credibility out the window by including that.

Beyond that though, it is sad, but it isn’t a gun problem. Yes, getting rid of guns would get rid of most shootings. However, it wouldn’t deal with the underlying problems causing these incidents, and it wouldn’t help the vast majority of violence in schools. Also, most school shootings, contrary to popular belief, are one or two people, not mass shootings. When our schools are a home to bullies, sexually abusive staff, racially segregated districts (yes, in the 21st century), economically segregated districts, republican defunding efforts, a loss of teachers especially during and immediately post-pandemic, and racially based gangs that perform regular violence against each other, it comes as no surprise, at least to me, that this violence is occurring. If it wasn’t a gun, it would be another weapon. We need to focus on the actual problems, not the ones that make us sad and grab our attention, especially when disarming the populace gives our already authoritarian police state even more power.

GiveMemes ,

Abuse of any psychoactive drug on the regular leads to depression. It isn’t just this concept of depressant or stimulant or even related in any way. Any stimhead can tell you all about the suicidal ideation inducing comedowns and inability to get anything done after stopping use.

GiveMemes ,

Depressant isn’t linked to depression tho. Get that idea out of your head completely. Like seriously go read some neuro textbooks and stop getting your pharmacology info from tiktok. Depressants depress the CNS… depression is a mental illness.

Also I’ve abused psychs and known a few others that did and I wouldn’t call any of our our activities/side effects manic or psychotic by any means. I know one person who had a family history of schizophrenia that had negative effects like that from their abuse. But just the one. I’d be interested in scholarly articles about the subject tho since I have biased data, and apparently, yours is not, at least from what one would construe from your comment.

GiveMemes ,

This one is a CNS stimulant.

verywellmind.com/adderall-for-depression-4845418

So is this

www.frontiersin.org/journals/…/full

They’re both linked to depression too. My point is that you need to get this idea of correlating the terms because of how they look similar out of your head. It’s a result of drug abuse (addiction/overuse) and the consistent changes caused by that in brain chemistry, causing negative effects when they aren’t affecting you. It’s not a result of it being a depressant vs a stimulant that you’re addicted to. A depressant, when not abused, relieves symptons of depression (and even when abused, often relieves them upon intake). Not going to get into how stimulant mania is likely caused mostly by lack of sleep, but you can look into it if interested.

And you’re right that psychedelic abuse hasn’t been linked to increased depression or anxiety… mostly because there’s no research on it whatsoever. In fact, almost all of our studies on drug abuse and addictiveness are incredibly flawed in the first place. That doesn’t make your anecdotal experience from a drug ward any more powerful tho, especially as it’s going to self select for people with mania as they are more likely to both be committed by the state and by their family or friends, more likely to cause people to take notice and sit them down, etc.

Analogies are great when it’s not medicine. Medicine is really fucking complicated tho. We can have a veritable chemical pathway and successful trials in animal testing and still end up with a result we shouldn’t expect.

My point is not that CNS depressants don’t cause depression from abuse, but that it’s just a result of abusing drugs, not the fact that they’re a depressant class drug.

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GiveMemes ,

I mean yes to the sentiment but it would be quite a bit different if these artists signed a distribution contract with the AI company saying they got a miniscule percentage of royalties for every track somebody generated or even licensed this music to train on whatsoever.

GiveMemes ,

The worst part of calc was honestly the rude awakening that my algebra skills needed woooork

GiveMemes ,

How is this a regular occurrence? Are they factory farming donkeys alongside cows for some reason? That would have no profit motive and I don’t think you’re talking about when a family farm’s donkey dies and they sell it to be used in dog food, so I’m honestly interested in how this has become such a widespread practice.

GiveMemes ,

I’ve talked to an ace guy abt this and he tried to masturbate as a teen and literally couldn’t get hard. He’s into romantic stuff tho. Everybody’s different I’m sure tho

GiveMemes ,

Jsyk in this specific context it’s hanged. Weird right?

Like:

Hanged from the neck until death

GiveMemes ,

Not in that country they ain’t. At least not about most things.

GiveMemes ,

That’s not what the term martyr means when we’re referring to Islam tho. They’re usually referring to Jihad which is much more specific. (And problematic)

Also, imagine thinking an American dictionary and en English word mean anything when the only ‘true’ reading of this religion is Arabic

GiveMemes ,

I can prove objectively that religion is bad for humanity. Can you do the same about atheism? There’s a huge difference between the two. We respect people, not their beliefs. If someone’s a racist, that’s a belief with just as much evidence (aka none/blind faith) as a religion. Do I have to respect their religions? I do think it’s really sad that these people died, though I view it as an easily preventable occurrence, and mostly the fault of those that partook. (The same way that I viewed the submarine)

GiveMemes ,

Those are the hadiths which is kinda like a state law vs a national law where the national law overpowers the state law (except in specific circumstances) or how the us constitution overrides national law. The quran is the only book that’s the word of God, and if you take all the hadiths as truth you open Islam up to all kinds of other critiques. Besides that, the shia/sunni split has a ton of hadith issues where they only treat some as truth and not others. For the record it’s not just Muslims or something. All of the Abrahamic religions are immensely fucked and I’m pretty sure I could make a similar case for most others. Even fucking Buddhism is being used to justify an ethnic cleansing rn.

You have definitely made me reflect on what I said and I shouldn’t have made such a claim when I don’t really know what I’m talking about entirely.

GiveMemes ,

You really don’t need a degree in literature to become a published author. That’s like getting a degree in media studies so you can become a youtuber. Yeah, you could do it, and it may give you some advantages, but like… You’re already literate, right? Besides that, taking a class or two on literature or creative writing would give you a lot of the skills you need to get you on your way, which you can easily do while pursuing another degree that ensures greater monetary security or (less easily) at a community college while also working.

I’m not saying that the system that begets this thinking is good, but it is the one we live under.

Location Communities

Something I did like about the other place was the communities for localities, and while I doubt we’ve hit that type of critical mass yet I figured I’d shoot since I’m in a pretty big city: anybody else live in Brooklyn or elsewhere in the greater NYC area? I’ll understand if this gets removed, just couldn’t think of a...

GiveMemes ,

I will. I plan on enjoying it. I hope you recognize that I’m doing this at your behest, equivalent to you eating the meat.

Also, have you ever considered that some people know where their meat comes from and know that it’s not being kept in horrible conditions? I don’t really care that it’s dying to feed me. Plants die to feed me too.

I’m not going to get into the environmental aspect as I know that veganism is better for the environment, but just shifting away from factory farmed red meat would be a huge positive change and then you don’t even piss off the majority of the population (that see you as a self-righteous shithead) :)

GiveMemes ,

The corvette is the best track car for the price by far, same with certain camaros. And I’m not talking about Nascar tracks, I mean nordschleife times.

GiveMemes ,

Some do. Some, like Shaq or Ryan Reynolds (or Kanye) use their money to invest in other companies. Ryan Reynolds coming out and saying Nazi shit would probably be bad for Mint, just like Ye’s controversy was bad for Yeezy, just like Elon’s controversy is bad for Tesla.

GiveMemes ,

You provided exactly zero reasoning for most of your statements and have now taken a condescending position. People like you are why we can’t have nice things in the world.

GiveMemes ,

I prefer basing my opinions on logic, arguments, and facts over feelings. Your inability to articulate a response to certain arguments shows why this is still a debate. Further, you’re relying on the idea that something is crazy to you, therefore it should be to everybody, but that’s not how it works. There’s racist people that use this exact type of reasoning to support their racism.

E.G.

“Black people are less than white people”

logical counterpoint logical counterpoint

“WTF do you need a reasoning that black people are less than white people”

If your position is really stronger, then it shouldn’t be hard for you to make arguments in favor of it.

GiveMemes ,

I disagree with the second part. That means everybody living in a first world country is inherently a bad person just by accident of their birth location. We’re well past the point of choosing whether or not we participate in most systems, and at the end of the day, somebody needs to do the job of law enforcement.

GiveMemes ,

Ok then, so people who vote in US elections are inherently evil? - a more analogous example

People who consume bananas are inherently evil?

People that have smartphones are inherently evil?

Those things are all choices. How about another one? Lithium mining is a bad system that negatively impacts the environment. Therefore, people that buy electric cars are evil and bad for the environment, right?!?

GiveMemes ,

Cause the middle school one is the quadratic formula. You use it to factor 2nd degree polynomials. You don’t solve for a, b, and c, you just plug them in.

GiveMemes ,

There’s a reason we have realism in political science though. Theory isnt the truth of how things play out in real life, especially when it comes to the social sciences. We need descriptions just as much, if not moreso, than prescriptions.

I agree that theory is important tho, so I’ll do my part by linking a free resource: www.youtube.com/channel/UC5GYwuvmAD_VyV6w5aFnnUw

GiveMemes ,

dehumanization of the other

Whooooah there buddy.

GiveMemes ,

Ah, yes, all societies and situations are homogeneous I forgot.

Besides that, people deserve to die for playing by the rules of the system in which we live? Why not change the rules to prevent abuse?

Clown

GiveMemes ,

I do read theory. I just know theory isnt the be all end all of understanding the world. If it was, that would be great, but you just happen to agree with this guys philosophical musings. Besides that, you call me a liberal when I’m literally not but whatever.

You’re arguing with an imaginary friend and a beautiful strawman opinion you made for him to hold.

I never said anything about Haiti, but comparing anybody living in a first world country (the vast majority of this site’s users and where such a revolution is more likely to take place) to a slave is disingenuous at absolute best.

I also don’t think that Dessalines needed to massacre the remaining french people on the island. I’m willing to bet I have a better und3rstanding of the haitian revolution than you. You know they reinstated slavery within a couple of years, right? Read some Trouillot.

🤡

GiveMemes ,

That literally has nothing to do with what Im talking about, which you should really know given your username. I’m done here.

GiveMemes ,

So then gun owners can’t drink coffee?

GiveMemes ,

The issue with considering these to be anything like the ‘hard sciences’ is that it is impossible to even try to control for all variables. Plus, whenever sociologists, for example, make a bad prediction, they just write it off as differences in personality or some other similar thing.

God forbid they actually just falsified their hypothesis. It’s important that people understand how to think about the social sciences, don’t get me wrong, but they’re pretty overwhelmingly ineffective for creating a proper framework for understanding the world around you.

Theories in social science and theories in hard science are totally different.

Theories in science have a shit ton of evidence behind them and haven’t been falsified.

Theories in social science, on the other hand, are all in competition with each other because they all have their positive and negative aspects that make them better for application in some situations than others.

And yes I know that we still use a newtonian idea of gravity in many cases, but that’s completely different as it just tends to make the math easier in practice. It’s not that we actually still believe in newtonian ideas.

GiveMemes ,

The issue with considering these to be anything like the ‘hard sciences’ is that it is impossible to even try to control for all variables. Plus, whenever sociologists, for example, make a bad prediction, they just write it off as differences in personality or some other similar thing.

God forbid they actually just falsified their hypothesis. It’s important that people understand how to think about the social sciences, don’t get me wrong, but they’re pretty overwhelmingly ineffective for creating a proper framework for understanding the world around you.

Theories in social science and theories in hard science are totally different.

Theories in science have a shit ton of evidence behind them and haven’t been falsified.

Theories in social science, on the other hand, are all in competition with each other because they all have their positive and negative aspects that make them better for application in some situations than others.

And yes I know that we still use a newtonian idea of gravity in many cases, but that’s completely different as it just tends to make the math easier in practice. It’s not that we actually still believe in newtonian ideas.

GiveMemes ,

This just in: theoretical physicists are not scientists.

GiveMemes ,

Wdym

GiveMemes ,

Can you provide an academic paper? I think I understand the concept, but I fail to see it being meaningful with relation to the examples I posed of why the social sciences aren’t scientific.

GiveMemes ,

Seems more like religion and blind belief to me. I agree that you can’t define consciousness in terms of particles… yet. But to say it’s impossible is a huge leap. High level biology is basically all physics and chem for this reason; it’s emergent from the 2 together. That doesn’t mean that you can’t define biological processes in terms of their chemical and physical activities though. It’s kind of like free will: we think we have it because we make ‘choices’ but at the end of the day our brain is just a series of particles, so where does the free will come from? Are we just deluding ourselves?

GiveMemes ,

Lots of words to say I have no proof and provide only conjecture.

GiveMemes , (edited )

I think you just don’t understand what I’m saying. All that may be true but then you would need to control for ALL those variables for good science which you just cannot do in the social sciences.

They’re important, just not really good science. They’re useful, but not in the way physics is. There aren’t competing theories of the most basic levels of understanding in the hard sciences. There are throughout the entirety of the fields of the social sciences.

GiveMemes , (edited )

Just realized clean drinking water, electricity, transport infrastructure, etc. isn’t important. The things you think are important to the world are only important because most people in first world countries have never had to face true hardship in their lives as a result of technological advancement.

I’m not talking about string theory. Scientists disagree about things at a high level all the time. It’s how the fields move forward. They don’t disagree on the fundamentals though, which social sciences have a tendency to.

I’m not here to say the social sciences are useless. In fact I’ve stated several times that I think people need to be able to understand them and use them. I’m arguing something different entirely and I don’t know why you keep strawmanning me. It’s not about some ideological purity but a basic difference in the ability to learn things because of our inability to control the relevant variables.

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