I run a few groups, like @fediversenews, mostly on Friendica. It's okay, but Friendica resembles Facebook Groups more than Reddit. I also like the moderation options that Lemmy has....
That is true, that was an issue on Reddit as well. But here it’s even worse, since you can have a community with the same name on different instances. It basically adds another dimension to the discoverability issue.
I’ve seen a couple of instances around asking if it’s possible to self host Lemmy fronted by Traefik, figured I can share my test setup with the community. This configuration is still in testing phase but seems to work in a federated configuration....
Make navigation & reading work without javascript.
Make dark mode available when not logged in.
Indicate which comments are new when returning to a recently-visited post. (old.reddit.com does this if you have premium.)
Display user and community names with the domain part dimmed (and maybe on a separate line), for less visual clutter at a quick glance.
Display user names without prepending an @ sign, for the same reason.
Allow sorting community lists by name.
Horizontally align all community names in lists, regardless of whether they have icons.
Reduce wasted screen space.
When reading a post/comment on any random instance (perhaps found via web search) make subscribing & finding that post on the user’s home instance a one-click operation, so they can reply.
Optionally hide avatars & community icons.
Optionally (admin choice) mirror remote instances’ images, so they can’t be abused by remote parties to track local users.
Optionally (user choice) disable or replace remote images, for the same reason.
Stop auto-inserting new items into a list that’s being viewed. (It causes what I’m reading to suddenly shift or disappear off-screen, which is disorienting.)
Make buttons work reliably. (Clicking them sometimes applies a border without doing anything else.)
Correct me if I’m wrong. I read ActivityPub standards and dug a little into lemmy sources to understand how federation works. And I’m a bit disappointed. Every server just has a cache and the ability to fetch something from another known server. So if you start your own instance, there is no profit for the whole network...
Since Lemmy instance are not backed by commercial interest, but rather by nice volunteers and donors that have money and time to spare, they will be heavily affected by economic downturns (we still can see commercial interests still affect users negatively tho with reddit). Here are my thoughts on the matter:
as far as I understand the owner of the domain: https://lemmy.world even has to pay for this fancy domain name in the DNS system … every month subscription service style
(and tbh I hate the Domain name system) why should I fund it with my own money?
if you hosted with an onion site over tor that expenditure would not exist, but how would users discover your site then? Let me know if you know something about this
in times of deflation (meaning money becomes worth more, spending some money on a self hosted lemmy instance becomes nonsensical)
tbh if I hosted a lemmy instance and the users of my instance posted high quality content in quantity I would use it to train my own LLM, that would at least create some economic incentive for me to host such a page … but managing spam and bots will be HARD
That is why you should always back up your comments on your personal device, would be nice if lemmy had an automated way of doing this (I should look into this more)
I agree, I don’t particularly see this as an actual issue… Nothing stops you from subscribing to both.
Just like there could be a [email protected] and a [email protected]. Nobody is confused with emails when it comes to this… The difference is that it’s slightly more work than reddit because r/aww is one particular thing and it’s assumed we’re talking about Reddit because of it’s unique format. Here it’s just c/aww on lemmy.ml, but that’s a bit of the point of the !aww structure of naming.
I LOVE that there’s !aww and !aww. Different communities ran by different groups will end up with different content. Then I can shop for the content I want myself.
Nobody can singularly own the name. I always found that to be a big problem on reddit. r/trees comes to mind, if there was an actual arborist community that want r/trees, well they were fucked. And that’s kind of jacked. This way it doesn’t matter. Just pick a different instance that doesn’t already have c/trees and post there… or better, start your own instance to host it.
I don’t know… in the future people could even start up instances of lemmy on domains like lemmy.jobs, lemmy.help or lemmy.hobby to aggregate major communities based on topics. lemmy.jobs for instance could be an instance that houses professional the arborist and the domain would make it clear the intent. Or even better… drop the lemmy all together and register jobs.social or similarly descriptive domain names.
I know we’re all a hodge-podge of domains now because a lot of us are just spinning up instance on domains we already have… but the potential is there.
I think users are still having trouble with the mental model for browsing Lemmy.
The first interaction with the service is already fragmented - you need to choose where to create an account and start browsing. Even though you can browse communities from other servers, people are now seeing them through the lens of “fragmented” “my server vs other server” and that creates the illusion that these duplicates are somehow a huge issue.
But duplicates can actually be quite useful - a community called “memes” on Lemmy.world could attend to a different audience than a community also called “Memes” but made in an instance entirely in French.
Also, if two instances have two communities you enjoy, with the same name… Subscribe to both? Nothing stops you from doing that. It’s okay. Reddit had “me_irl” and “meirl” which were the exact same, but with different mods, a relatively similar number of subscribers and quite honestly the same content. I didn’t know the actual difference between the two, and I still do not know - I just subscribed to both and kept getting depressing memes to cry before going to sleep. No issues.
I think this comment convinced me. Because you’re right, on Reddit there were always offshoot communities that were essentially the same exact thing just of different sizes and run by different people. There’ll probably always be the “most popular” one, and then several offshoots for the same topic but perhaps a better sense of community because it’s hundreds or thousands of users vs millions or tens of millions of users.
Remembering the exact instance and community name combinations will take a little extra effort, but not significantly and subscribing negates that mostly.
A distributed architecture generally refers to a single application or service designed to be resilient to individual data center failures. For example, Reddit, a centralized application controlled by Reddit itself, operates data centers around the world to process user transactions. In the event of an outage in a specific location, such as California, Reddit would still be able to function because its infrastructure for handling user requests and serving data would automatically switch to other functioning data centers elsewhere, like Nevada, Arizona, or Washington. This is an example of a distributed architecture.
On the other hand, a decentralized federation does not consist of a single application. Instead, it involves a software platform like Lemmy, which is hosted on multiple individual hosts. When a user signs up with one host, they can interact with users from other hosts, but each host manages its own infrastructure. For instance, someone could host a Lemmy instance on an old laptop they found in their closet and name it ballsuckers.com, while another person could host a Lemmy instance in the cloud with a properly designed distributed architecture and name it bingbong.com. Each host is responsible for managing its own instance. Users from both instances can interact with each other, but if, for example, the hard drive of ballsuckers.com were to fail, the entire ballsuckers.com instance would go down. However, this would not affect bingbong.com because its infrastructure is separate and managed independently.
This is where breaking news, the latest numbers, information, and questions about the #RedditMigration will be posted. There will also be a place to discuss tactics to best help users make that jump and feel at home in the Fediverse. Welcome!
I’m really enjoying lemmy. I think we’ve got some growing pains in UI/UX and we’re missing some key features (like community migration and actual redundancy). But how are we going to collectively pay for this? I saw an (unverified) post that Reddit received 400M dollars from ads last year. Lemmy isn’t going to be free....
A small cloud server + a domain name costs less than a Netflix subscription. The developers have taken care to package lemmy in ways that are relatively straight forward to deploy, so a dedicated person with a small amount of experience can have an instance up and running in an evening. As long as a few percentage of users are willing to pay a netflix subscription to keep a server running, the financial burden would be spread.
What is the plan to make communities between instances easily accessible? I feel like with mastodon and now lemmy that is the part that concerns me, namely community reach/discoverability
I think my concern for adoptability is that a technology community could exist with the same name on lemmy.world as well as on another instance. I think theirs some benefit to creating a user and community pool of names and communities to allow genuine growth. it would also prevent fakes and phishing.
I think of it like [email protected] instead of just selfhosted. Sure there may be duplicate communities on different instances but over time I think there will be more people gravitating to a particular community and people will just sub there from then on and the others will become more dormant. When I refer to a community I’ll just use the full name ([email protected]) and not just the community name (selfhosted)
I wanted to get a pulse check on how new members are finding the general experience/website. Is it more confusing than Reddit or are you finding the instance system a better way of doing things as it can give you more freedom of where you choose to create an account?...
I like the concept
But it feels very much like its been designed by nerdy developers and has had little to no-input on user friendly design.
The federated idea can work but it needs to be more seemless than this.
Communities with the same name should be merged when viewing it from any instance, so you can see all the posts from these communities, they can be moderated seperatley and for advanced users you should be able to select which communities make up the merged community.
By default you should see all of the merged communities in a central place and be able to subscribe to them easily, at the moment its handled different per instance but you have to seek out these communities to subscribe or follow them.
I strongly believe there should be a centralised log-in system, so you can log into any instance with an account from another instance, this means if your instance goes down your account is centralised and is safe.
Most of the Lemmy instances seem to require an email to sign up. That’s fine, except most of the places you would go to sign up for email want you to… already have an email. And often a phone number. And almost always a first name, last name, and birthday....
I have finished writing instructions for deploying lemmyBB on a production server, which you can follow at the link above. Right now the project is still in a very early stage, nevertheless main funcionality is already working. This includes browsing communities, posts and comments, writing posts/comments and registration/login....
That is why I love the fediverse in general! But when nutomic talks about the ex redditors from r/GenderCritical says
“Many reddit alternatives have been happy to embrace “reddits rejects”, no matter how bigoted those communities are, in the name of “free speech”. We don’t agree with this view, or with those who have nostalgia for a non-existent reddit past where it was more “free” and bigoted than it is now.”
Is he talking about the instance in particular or refearing to lemmy in general? Maybe I misunderstood that
[Help] How can I self host services (eg, a website, lemmy instance, vpn) on my own hardware while hiding my IP?
(I asked this on r*ddit a long while ago, but I don’t think I explained myself properly)...
Hosting Lemmy with Traefik as a reverse proxy
cross-posted from: lmmy.tvdl.dev/post/259...
I got a lemmy account and a kbin account while deciding what i like best. Since I'm new to this i'm having trouble searching and "subscribing" lemmy communities while on kbin and viceversa. Can someone please help me with this issue? (kbin.social)
Second time doing this because I made a "post" the first time, I feel kinda lost to be honest.
Redditors, how do you like Lemmy?
I run a few groups, like @fediversenews, mostly on Friendica. It's okay, but Friendica resembles Facebook Groups more than Reddit. I also like the moderation options that Lemmy has....
Hosting Lemmy with Traefik
I’ve seen a couple of instances around asking if it’s possible to self host Lemmy fronted by Traefik, figured I can share my test setup with the community. This configuration is still in testing phase but seems to work in a federated configuration....
How would you make Lemmy nicer for yourself?
Heyo, what little things with Reddit and RES have you been missing with the Lemmy UI?...
Are all these thousands of lemmy servers useless?
Correct me if I’m wrong. I read ActivityPub standards and dug a little into lemmy sources to understand how federation works. And I’m a bit disappointed. Every server just has a cache and the ability to fetch something from another known server. So if you start your own instance, there is no profit for the whole network...
Welcome to RedditMigration! (kbin.social)
This is where breaking news, the latest numbers, information, and questions about the #RedditMigration will be posted. There will also be a place to discuss tactics to best help users make that jump and feel at home in the Fediverse. Welcome!
How are we going to pay for all this?
I’m really enjoying lemmy. I think we’ve got some growing pains in UI/UX and we’re missing some key features (like community migration and actual redundancy). But how are we going to collectively pay for this? I saw an (unverified) post that Reddit received 400M dollars from ads last year. Lemmy isn’t going to be free....
Self-hosting Lemmy on Hetzner
This weekend I installed my own Lemmy instance, so I want to share the instructions to help others, who want to do the same....
How many users could you host on a self hosted lemmy instance?
Upload of around 40mbps
For everyone new to Lemmy, how are you finding the experience?
I wanted to get a pulse check on how new members are finding the general experience/website. Is it more confusing than Reddit or are you finding the instance system a better way of doing things as it can give you more freedom of where you choose to create an account?...
Where are people getting their emails?
Most of the Lemmy instances seem to require an email to sign up. That’s fine, except most of the places you would go to sign up for email want you to… already have an email. And often a phone number. And almost always a first name, last name, and birthday....
Lenpaste v1.2 released - open source pastebin.com analog (lemmy.ml)
Lenpaste v1.2 is out. Lenpaste source code and installation guide: git.lcomrade.su/root/lenpaste. Installation on a Raspberry PI is supported....
Instructions for lemmyBB installation, test instance available (github.com)
I have finished writing instructions for deploying lemmyBB on a production server, which you can follow at the link above. Right now the project is still in a very early stage, nevertheless main funcionality is already working. This includes browsing communities, posts and comments, writing posts/comments and registration/login....
Lemmy's origin story. (lemmy.ml)
I thought this would be good to share, its an excerpt from an unpublished interview written in december 2020 about Lemmy’s origins and goals....