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fruitleatherpostcard ,

It’s only the racists and fuckwits influenced by Russian propaganda efforts who will voting ‘no’.

Blursty ,
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Russian propaganda efforts in Australia? Do you have anything to support this? Did you mean American propaganda?

awwwyissss ,

Eh, the Kremlin pushes propaganda to support both extremes in order to create division.

freagle ,

What the fuck? What interest does Russia have in suppressing the voice of the indigenous in Australia?

The people with the most motivation in suppressing indigenous voices are:

  • USA
  • Canada
  • UK
  • Australia
  • NZ
  • France
  • Spain
  • Netherlands
  • Belgium
  • Mexico
  • Colombia (on behalf of USA)
  • Panama (on behalf of USA)
  • El Salvador (on behalf of USA)

But Russia?

ksynwa ,
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True. Australian settlers would have been living amicably with the indigenous like family had only Russian proaganda not corrupted their minds.

fruitleatherpostcard ,

It has been reported that Russian state trolls meddle in every western country’s affairs and initiate conflict over any social or political affair it none exists to exploit already. They are also a source of dark money to various lobbies merely to create trouble.

ksynwa ,
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It has also been reported that Russian state trolls don’t sway a country’s affairs in a significantly meaningful way.

Arrakis ,

Brexit called and would like a word with you

freagle ,

LOL, are you insinuating that settler genocide was insufficient to rise to the level of “conflict” and that it would take foreign propaganda to “invent” a conflict over it?

Exactly how white are you?

fruitleatherpostcard ,

Oh no, not at all. European colonists are responsible for uncounted atrocities all over the world. Of their time, of course but unforgivable in this day and age.

I’m saying that the ‘No vote’ so-called “grassroots” is largely bullshit and is being stirred-up by Putin’s minions as yet another ingredient to help destabilise the West.

freagle ,

Wait, what? You think colonialism is an atrocity but that the West is stable enough to require “Putin’s minions” to try to destabilize it?

Are you of the belief that the atrocities of colonialism have ended and the West has emerged more stable?

This just doesn’t make any sense. The West has been unstable for centuries. It is constantly needing to commit major acts of violence against people and land in order to create the next phase of temporary “stability” as it careens from one crisis to the next. Russia, or is you imagine, Putin personally, doesn’t need to do anything to destabilize the West. The colonized people are slowly building the momentum necessary to decolonize themselves. Africa went through it first and found how the West captured the efforts and corruptes them. Everyone watched and learned. This is a new phase in decolonization that won’t allow the colonists to corrupt their movement.

Attributing Western instability to some Asiatic evil genius and his blind unfeeling hordes is settler thinking.

fruitleatherpostcard ,

Thanks comrade! Keep up the good work! Are you still getting paid now that Pregoshits got whacked?

freagle ,

Man, you are going for the full DARVO response, aren’t you, you little colonizer you. There’s no way anyone could possibly critique your position, is there? If they disagree with you, then they must paid Russian shills. Denying that Russian propaganda is causing instability in Australia’s colonial context is ONLY explainable by Russian propaganda. Such a neat little mental package you’ve created for yourself so you don’t have to deal with reality.

Listen, you can be delusional. It’s OK. It’s not gonna help you in the future when the contradictions of white settler society come to a head and finally get resolved. But for now, I get it. You need this delusion to maintain your emotional stability. Good luck out there!

fruitleatherpostcard ,

I’m saying it’s both Russian trolls and plenty of homegrown colonial racism. I do honestly think though that the trolls have weaponised social media to create an astro-turfed permission structure in western societies where we had previously been pretty good at starting to smash that racist shit out towards the past.

freagle , (edited )

White settlers are never going to smash that racist shit out while occupying territory they acquired via genocide.

fruitleatherpostcard ,

We don’t have a time machine etc. We do have a sort of democracy, as flawed as it is. Voting ‘Yes’ can make an small but important step towards empowering the currently disenfranchised subjugated aboriginal people who didn’t deserve the colonial hand they got dealt.

So, what’s your problem?

freagle ,

A democracy created by settlers is never going to decolonize itself. The only solution is for the indigenous nations to control the entire continent and oversee the process of decolonization.

Aradina ,

What the fuck are you on about? I assure you, Australian’s don’t need external influence to be racist about shit.

Arrakis ,

All those people are signing up to make sure the indigenous population finally get a modicum of the representation they deserve…right? Right???

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

CANBERRA, Australia — A record number of Australians enrolled to vote in a referendum that would create an Indigenous advocacy body, as the first ballots for constitutional change are set to be cast in remote Outback locations next week, officials said on Thursday.

The Voice would be a group of Indigenous representatives who would advise the government and legislators on policies that effect the lives of the nation’s most disadvantaged ethnic minority.

Rogers said he was concerned by the level of online threats that staff at the Australian Electoral Commission, which conducts referendums and federal elections, were being subjected to.

Electoral officials were attempting to counter online disinformation, which appeared to be homegrown rather than coming from overseas, he said.

In the United States in April, Fox News agreed to pay Dominion Voting Systems $787.5 million to avert a trial in the voting machine company’s lawsuit that would have exposed how the network promoted lies about how the machines cost former President Donald Trump the 2020 presidential election.

The conservatives argue the Voice would be a radical change that would create legal uncertainty, divide the nation along racial lines and lead to claims for compensation.

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