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Nationalgoatism ,

I hope this does happen, but the article only cites “sources” so I won’t hold my breath

WIIHAPPYFEW ,
@WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net avatar

Nonono INFORMED sources. Completely different

stmcld ,

As happy as I am about this, I hope we’re not going to see “coincidental” increase of attacks there by ISIS(US/israeli proxy, in my opinion) or other US/israeli proxies after the withdrawal of US military.

Maeve ,

Oh, happy day! I may go out and dance in my rural road, in the rain! Congrats to everyone in the region! Inshallah, peace, real freedom and prosperity will be achieved, with godspeed!

PanArab ,
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I don’t understand why the Iraqi government doesn’t just give the militias the tacit permission to help the US out? The current government of Afghanistan showed the world how it is done.

Maeve ,

Because diplomacy may be slower at achievements of desired outcomes, but also longer-lasting, and hopefully better for regular people who have suffered enough horrors of war (declared or not)?

PanArab ,
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The Iraqi government has been asking since the Obama years. It is clear that diplomacy is not something the US does.

Maeve ,

First sentence: I am very well aware, and opposed the invasion, from the beginning. Second sentence: I can see that perspective and largely agree, except we seem very much to value deplomacy, wholly on our own terms. Nonetheless, no need pushing us all closer to a nuclear world war, or even another "incursion" and punish the people of Iraq more. We've seen what that does and escalation, as well. And there may be alternative solutions between your point and mine I'm currently failing to see, and I acknowledge I may feel very differently, if I lived there. I would advocate for peace, solely for the sake of those who have already suffered, so much, under the heel of my country. I mean no disrespect or ill will, brother. Salam.

PanArab , (edited )
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I disagree. The Afghan approach worked, diplomacy doesn’t. For the sake of those who have suffered, it is an insult to allow US troops to remain in Iraq. It is an insult that they are in any Arab country to be honest, but most Arab governments ignore the will of the people.

Nonetheless, no need pushing us all closer to a nuclear world war, or even another “incursion” and punish the people of Iraq more.

Sounds like you are listing your fears. We don’t share them with you. We didn’t chose this fate, but liberation comes at a cost and freedom isn’t free.

If the Afghans can liberate themselves from US occupation, so can the Iraqis as far as I see it.

Collatz_problem ,

Well, militias regularly shoot at American bases and Iraqi government does nothing about it, so it can probably be considered an unspoken permission.

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