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yogthos OP ,
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I don’t need anyone to die, it’s not my fault that Russia attacked Ukraine!

You very clearly do since you reject peace that’s on the table. In fact, you’re the kind of person who wants other people to die for your ideals. The worst kind of individual. This war is happening because of the west. Period.

It could’ve been avoided entirely, and it could’ve been stopped two months in, and it could be stopped right now. The west wants to fight this war to the last Ukrainian. There’s even a whole study RAND put out explaining in great detail why US in particular wanted this war www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html

But that’s not justify all aggression and horror Russia brings.

This is just useless moralizing that accomplishes nothing and helps nobody. The reality of the situation is that Russia is going to win this war, and the only question is how many people will die or have their lives ruined in the process. What the west is doing is ensuring that this number is as high as possible.

Moreover, Putin started conscription before he sent his treaty to not enlarge NATO.

Moreover, you evidently aren’t aware of the fact that Russia has had compulsory military service since it was part of USSR.

I think he just wanted casus belli for aggression.

The RAND study I linked above explains who wanted casus belli for aggression in black and white.

Why Donbas war started in 2014?

Because US backed nationalists overthrew the legitimate government in Ukraine and started doing ethnic cleansing. This is something that’s pretty well documented.

Putin planned to take control over Ukraine many years earlier and this war is his way to take control by force but it backfired.

This is what’s called historical revisionism.

Sorry, I don’t know what you referring to? Could you elaborate about this offer? Are you referring current offer or some earlier one?

I’m referring to the current offer that was just made days ago, as well as the Istanbul agreement that the west sabotaged.

I get it, Russia is master in attritional war but even they cannot maintain war forever.

Russia doesn’t need to maintain the war forever. Ukraine is literally running out of trained soldiers already, and you can’t create an army by kidnapping people off the street. At some point the inflection point will be reached where there’s simply not enough professional core left in the army to hold things together, and the collapse will happen rapidly at that point the same way it happened to the Germans in WW2.

Furthermore, Russian economy is now growing having become the 4th largest while western economies are going into recessions with domestic unrest becoming sharper by the day. Russia will very obviously outlast the west. Whether Trump or Biden wins the election will not change the direction of travel because the problem the west faces is the its lack of industrial capacity.

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