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hrosts ,

You have managed to miss both the point of the joke and my explanation of it

I know you were sarcastic in the original comment, which is why I asked you to make an actual point.

They key points of your response were:

A state only does welfare policies when it is compelled to by democratic forces.

The USSR [did a lot of welfare]

these policies … are certainly a strong indicator [of democracy]

The first point you’re wrong on, as I have explained.

The second point I agree on.

The third point you are again wrong on, as examples I’ve provided demonstrate.

Both proofs and indicators serve similar goals rhetorically, I don’t see the point of your distinction here. I also didn’t say “proof” when criticizing your point:

Your “welfare implies democracy” take

Now going further.

Oh, was the USSR under Stalin fascist then?

I have no idea what led you to think I’m saying this, stop being defensive. It did do some things that, if were done by a western liberal government, would’ve lead to accusations of fascism, but that is beside the point.

Was it simply “placating” and “disarming” the working population?

That is correct, however; both figuratively and literally.

Nobody but the most dumbass of ultras can pretend

Now you’re just posturing. Please stop.

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