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secret_ninja ,

What Hamas did is a crime, no question. But, if what Israel is doing is not a “Holocaust”, I don’t know what is.

Anti-IDF and anti Israel government is NOT anti-semitism.

Zerush ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

All this is much more vomitous even. Tactics of any fascist regime, if you can’t invent enemies to justify your actions, create them yourself.

jol ,

Exactly. I have nothing against Israelis or Russia or Americans. I just hate their governments and what they do to the world.

IbnLemmy ,

Anti-semitism accusations in 3…2…

goferking0 ,

you can’t call us Nazis when we do things they did

holycrap ,

More world leaders need to do this

livus ,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

Just Lula doing Lula things. He'a like your kind uncle whose heart's in the right place but sometimes goes a bit far.

I agree with this part:

“What’s happening in the Gaza Strip isn’t a war, it’s a genocide,” Lula told reporters in Addis Ababa where he was attending an African Union summit on Sunday.

“It’s not a war of soldiers against soldiers. It’s a war between a highly prepared army and women and children,” added the Brazilian president.

But then record scratch, like Lula do you not even history:

“What’s happening in the Gaza Strip with the Palestinian people hasn’t happened at any other moment in history. Actually, it has happened: when Hitler decided to kill the Jews.”

rbesfe , (edited )

Israel is definitely committing acts of genocide, but holocaust comparisons are hyperbole; they haven’t been rounding up Palestinians by the thousands and putting them in gas chambers. Even the most evil acts imaginable still fall on a spectrum.

IbnLemmy ,

Ok, true, no gas chambers… But rounding up Palestinians and lobbing in bombs… That’s what’s happening in rafah right now… Except it’s not thousands… It’s more.

rbesfe ,

Even Palestinian estimates put the civilian casualties in the low tens of thousands, I’d say that counts as “thousands”

S_204 ,

If they’re definitely committing genocide, why didn’t the ICJ order them to stop? They ordered Russia too, they’ve got the ability. They declined to do it again the other day for Rafah again.

I don’t think there was billions of dollars going into aushwitz or the other camps, and Israel doesn’t seem to be trucking in Palestinians from neighboring countries… and killing them en masse. Seems like the comparisons aren’t equivalent.

brain_in_a_box ,

The ICJ did order them to stop, the West just ignored it.

livus ,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

@S_204 there's two issues here.

Auschwitz and the Shoah was not the only genocide, you don't even need camps to carry out a genocide.

What Israel is doing is definitely a genocide but whether or not other genocides should be compared to the Holocaust is a separate issue.

Harbinger01173430 ,

Tfw there are askenazi Jews seems suspicious af.

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Not cool, a lot of Ashkenazi Jews aren’t Zionists and not live in Israel.

Name itself is coming from legendary figure of Ashkenaz, grandson of Japhet who as the direct descendant of Noah symbolise Germany. Germany was called Eretz Ashkenaz in Yiddish since medieval, and so Ashkenazi Jews = Jews in Germany, from where they spread to nearly entire west, north and east Europe when they were running away from pogroms.

Harbinger01173430 ,

So, nazi is a word for Germany in Jew vocabulary. More points for them. 🙄

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

How did you even managed to read it that way

Harbinger01173430 ,

Netizen mental gymnastics obviously 🧐

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