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Ukraine floats the theory it may have been tricked into shooting down the plane Russia says was full of Ukrainian POWs

-A Russian military transport plane crashed Wednesday in a border region near Ukraine.
-Russia accused Ukraine of shooting it down, killing 74 people on board, including prisoners of war.
-Ukraine said it was not told about "the need to ensure the safety of the airspace in the area."

Ukraine has suggested that it may have been tricked into shooting down a plane that Russia claims was carrying 74 people, including 65 Ukrainian prisoners of war.
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gregorum ,

This whole situation immedialy reminds me of the Star Trek: DS9 episode Rule of Engagement.

mihies ,

There is a Russian claim that Ukraine deliberately shot down the airplane to prevent exchange. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Anyway, this is not so different than MH17.

gnuhaut ,

This doesn’t make sense. People are going to forget about this incident in a couple of days, and nothing will change. Why would Russia sacrifice their plane for a couple of days of bad PR for Ukraine?

Someone fucked up and did not tell the air defense crew to hold their fire, most likely. Ukraine says it was the Russians that forgot to tell them. Maybe? You’d think the details of this prisoner exchange would have been hashed out days before in detail, so I’m thinking it more likely someone on Ukraine’s side forgot hand down this info to the AD crew. But who knows, it’s gonna be he said, she said.

The fact that Ukraine is already is floating conspiracy theories makes me think they’re full of shit.

knfrmity ,

Given Ukraine’s track record there’s no way this wasn’t on purpose and that they’re not lying about it.

gnuhaut ,

Makes no sense for Ukraine to do this on purpose. They gain nothing.

Mongostein ,

Either Russia faked communications to trick them in to killing their own people or Russia’s lying after the fact.

brain_in_a_box ,

Or, you know, it could have been a legitimate break down in communication.

Mongostein ,

I sincerely doubt it

brain_in_a_box ,

Very rigorous analysis you presented there, good job. Ukraine is perfect, after all, and mistakes never happen.

Mongostein ,

¯*(ツ)*/¯

I’m just some guy, you don’t have to take my opinion so seriously

How do I summon the remind me bot?

Evil_incarnate ,

That’s my theory. Especially if Ukraine was listening to the Russians and they referred to the contents as missiles.

MedicPigBabySaver ,

Duh

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Ukraine has suggested that it may have been tricked into shooting down a plane that Russia claims was carrying 74 people, including 65 Ukrainian prisoners of war.

“The landing of a transport plane in a 30-kilometer zone of hostilities cannot be safe and in any case must be discussed by both sides, because otherwise, it endangers the entire exchange process,” said the GUR.

“Based on this, we may be talking about planned and deliberate actions by the Russian Federation to destabilize the situation in Ukraine and weaken the international support for our state.”

“During the Jan. 24, 2024, massive Russian propaganda targets external audiences with a flow of fake news in an attempt to discredit Ukraine in front of the international community,” Oleshchuk wrote on his Telegram channel, reported Ukrainian media.

Ukrainian military intelligence initially said the plane had been carrying Russian S-300 air defense missiles, reported Ukrainska Pravda.

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has called for an international investigation into the incident and accused Russia of “playing with the lives of Ukrainian prisoners.”

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