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‘My son was killed on October 6. There was no Hamas’

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Dreamer OP , (edited )

July 15 2021

JOINT MILITIAS - On a Single Day in May, Israeli Settlers and Soldiers Cooperated in Attacks That Left Four Palestinians Dead

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BlameThePeacock ,

“The attack came hours after a Palestinian carried out a drive-by shooting in the town, causing no injuries.”

Welcome to war, if you start shooting at people, they’re going to shoot back.

People act like it’s all shocking that countries attack each other and take their land. It wasn’t very long ago the world divided up parts of Germany after defeating them in multiple wars, or when China invaded and annexed Tibet, or even when a bunch of European countries invaded the Americas and took a good chunk of both continents.

People who support Palestinians setting up their own state, do you think the First Nations in North America would be justified in attacking the cities and people that now exist in order to set up their own countries? Don’t try to tell me that reserves are the same thing, they aren’t their own countries at all they still fall under US laws for almost everything. Plus the US courts keep trampling their rights anytime anything of value gets discovered/blocked by a treaty or reserve.

amanneedsamaid ,

There is no obligation to reverse 300 year old actions, but we have an obligation to reverse a similar decision that happened less than a decade ago IMO. They just aren’t comparable events in the event of acting on it now.

Dreamer OP ,

I don’t think time is the important factor. If the U.S. today was the same U.S. 300 years ago, then we would 100% have a moral obligation to shut that shit down.

Now there is a diverse population, a culturally rich melting pot. However the U.S. is still plagued with racists/bigots, problematic entities, and a corrupt government.

Anyone who believes in any sort of racial supremacy, born in the US or not, should get kicked the fuck out.

Any problematic entities, such as oil companies ruining this land, should be dealt with. If Native Americans start biting back because their way of life is getting fucked especially, then they have my full support.

U.S. government is rife with corruption which spreads through many sectors ranging from health care to law enforcement. If Native Americans somehow overthrew the current government and replaced it with something more democratic, representative, or something just better, people would not have a logical reason to complain.

TL;DR

Time is irrelevant. The U.S. is no longer full of cunts, but the ones that do exist should GTFO.

amanneedsamaid ,

I totally disagree with the premise time is irrelevant, but I agree with you that time doesn’t entirely dissolve sentiment, there are still idiots flying Confederate battle flags.

BlameThePeacock ,

The breakup of Germany is only 80 years ago. The invasion of Tibet was less than 70.

This is what I’m saying about current people. They think they’re special because it didn’t happen in their lifetime. This shit has been happening for millenia, and it’s not about to stop now just because a bunch of people pray hard enough.

amanneedsamaid ,

The breakup of Germany was a result of WWII, and the invasion of Tibet was perpetrated by China, who is their direct neighbor.

Neither of those are similar enough to be compared.

BlameThePeacock ,

You want examples of civil wars wiping out ethnic groups recently? There’s even more examples of those.

Dreamer OP ,

Plus the US courts keep trampling their rights anytime anything of value gets discovered/blocked by a treaty or reserve.

You just made a case for why we need to prevent Palestinians from suffering a similar fate.

BlameThePeacock ,

The Palestinians are being funded by Iran to attack Israel. Giving them state hood won’t change that.

pan_troglodytes ,

and Iran wont give up its convenient base next to its sworn enemy

pan_troglodytes ,

indian reservations are basically separate mini countries - go to a reservation that has some casinos, they’re doing a lot better than most of us

BlameThePeacock ,

You’re uneducated. They aren’t at all.

guitarsarereal ,

Okay, but what did you want the bereaved mom to say to the media, “thanks Israel for murdering my kid because of what someone else did!”?

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