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luthis ,

And this one:

bellingcat.com/…/identifying-possible-crater-from…

derf82 ,

This seems to ignore an IDF official that initially claimed credit as well as Israeli calls to evacuate the area. I feel like if they are going to implicate a Hamas rocket, those claims should be addressed.

ultranaut ,

There’s apparently video of the rocket according to the article so unless you are claiming it’s faked what does it matter what anyone previously claimed? There’s been a bunch of claims made by all sorts of people, what should matter is actual evidence.

derf82 ,

It is an extremely dark video that they say is a rocket, but honestly, I can’t see much for myself. I see a lighted dot people say is a rocket.

I’m not saying it isn’t, but it isn’t the smoking gun the IDF wants it to be.

Bell ,

Definitely, this needs to be explained

luthis ,

I explained half of it, just the other half now.

luthis ,

This is fake news/misinformation. You are referring to a deleted tweet, correct? Well, that guy was no official.

Here is the tweet:

twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/…/1714357150594588816

This guy is not an official, not a minister, not a spokesperson for Israel, he is a wannabe Israel fanatic. In his own words:

‘Hananya Naftali is a prominent Israeli speaker and influencer in the fight against Antisemitism, terrorism, and assault on the State of Israel.’

… a cancerous influencer.

Edit: I might have added the ‘cancerous’ part myself, just for full disclosure.

SeaJ ,

According to Naftali’s website, he has worked for Netanyahu for five years.

Hananya has been working for Prime Minister Netanyahu in his digital team for the past 5 years.

www.hnaftali.com

While not a spokesperson exactly, definitely more than just an influencer.

BraveSirZaphod ,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

The core point is that he's essentially a moronic propagandist, not an official spokesman making press releases for the IDF.

An Israeli Candace Owens, basically. Yeah, he works for Bibi, but it's not like he has access to IDF intel or is speaking for them.

SeaJ ,

Owens did not work for Trump though. His job is actually to spin stories in a pro-Israel light. How much access to IDF intelligence he has, we do not know but he is certainly closer to Netanyahu in a work capacity than Owens was to Trump.

Not saying that we should take his Tweet as 100% proof that Israel did the strike but it should also not completely be discounted. It most definitely was not an air strike like Hamas has stated.

derf82 ,

He worked for the PM. He is a bit more than a mere influencer. This isn’t the Israeli Jake Paul, but closer to the Israeli Kayleigh McEnany.

But the larger point is, don’t publish an article saying “here is all the evidence” then not publish the evidence the other side is pointing to, not even to disprove it.

transistor ,
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What evidence does those tweets provide?

derf82 ,

It is a clear claim from a source with high level connections with the Israeli government. If it is so clearly false, why not provide reasons it is false?

luthis ,

He did actually provide reasons, why is everyone so averse to the quickest search?? It was literally the second link on the page:

hitc.com/…/hananya-naftali-apologises-for-hospita…

derf82 ,

The article that claims to have all the evidence should do that. And him changing his story isn’t the most convincing. It also says a lot about how despicable he and other Israelis are that they would rush to celebrate the bombing of a hospital as a great victory and immediately want to claim credit.

Hamas is evil. So is the Israeli government.

luthis ,

If only everyone could realise that instead of picking sides.

dogslayeggs ,

Yes, I’m sure a guy who has works on the “digital team” of a politician has the inside knowledge of what air strikes the military has made.

derf82 ,

Way more than the average citizen, absolutely.

PersnickityPenguin ,

And the PM is a fascist who should be in jail, so…

nuke ,

Al Jazeera live broadcast shows Hamas rocket breaking up above the hospital shortly before explosion

twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1714380403782324249

1bluepixel ,
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    Bell ,

    That seems like an awfully fast response for a missile defense system, and the IDF is defending airspace areas over Gaza too? This looks very much like a misfiring missile to me.

    GentlemanLoser ,

    This is copium if I’ve ever seen it

    correcthorsedickbatterystaple ,

    so take my hand and walk this land with me

    TokenBoomer ,

    Relevant

    speck ,

    Man, Disney musicals have taken a turn

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