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apfelwoiSchoppen ,
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Amazing at how political the supposedly apolitical Olympics can be.

tissek ,

Sports and politics go hand-in-hand.

apfelwoiSchoppen ,
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Yup, can’t have one without the other.

scarabic ,

I think it’s a stretch to call international competition “political.” But if you insist on doing that, then it’s silly to claim that they are supposed to be apolitical when every athlete competes under a flag.

apfelwoiSchoppen ,
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The games are inherently political, just like every facet of humanity. Yes, it is silly to think they are apolitical, as they are framed to be.

Doom ,

What the fuck is this comment lol.

It is not a stretch at all lol

TheFriar ,

I dunno. Seems like they’re just saying the nature of competing in sports isn’t political. But the fact that the flag they’re draped in is inextricably tied to that nation’s geopolitical actions means that there’s no way it can’t be seen as political. Makes sense to me.

scarabic ,

Well that was a perfectly substance-free reply.

Doom ,

The Olympics have always been political lol

The Nazis. The Soviets. China vs the US. Tommy Smith, the Munich Massacre, Jesse Owens. Boycotting the Olympics.

All political. Even deciding the venue is political as fuck bro

Like how do you have such an opinion and also no clue pop

scarabic ,

It is de facto political because people bring their politics to it, and because people are who they are. It is also overtly organized around the nation states of the athletes which is essentially political. But the spirit of it is to set politics aside and compete in a sportsmanlike way on an even playing field. You might say who cares what the “spirit” is versus the facts, and you’d have a point, but then again I’m not sure we should characterize the event by how terrorists choose to abuse it, either.

Congratulations for actually saying your piece instead of just “lol bruh.” You just took part in a discussion!

Doom ,

Dude writes a whole dissertation just to agree with me while being condescending. Why waste the electricity 😂

chatokun ,

Honestly, I agree to a point with them. Your other comment was vague and didn’t make a direct point, while your followup made a valid point.

Doom ,

I smoke weed when I argue half baked politics online. I apologize

chatokun ,

That’s fair.

NIB ,

The ancient Olympic Games was literally the biggest and most important political event in ancient Greece(and during the hellenistic period, in the “World”).

Everyone gathered there, wars were temporary suspended so if you had anything important to announce, you did it there. And thats why alliances were often announced there, alongside with shitload of backdoor deals and politicking.

knobbysideup ,
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Medal counts are retarded. The US sent, what, over 500 athletes? Show me a small country who sends an amateur to get on the podium. That means far more.

Humanius , (edited )
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Large countries like to boast that their absolute number is bigger, it’s a tale as old as time.

If you really want to make comparisons (and I’d argue it’s really not that important) you should probably look at medals per capita, or medals per athlete sent. Obviously that gets a bit distorted with countries with small population, but I think it’s a more valuable number.

By the medals per capita metric the USA is 47th, and China is 75th.
www.medalspercapita.com

I can’t find a good list for medals per athlete sent.

fluxion ,

Being able to train that many gold medal athletes is still a worthy boast though. I’d rather countries compete on metrics like this rather than threaten each other with war

Teils13 ,

This is de facto extremely distorted, if not nullified, by the fact the collective sports (football, volley, etc) get 1 medal to each country, and solitary sports have multiple variants of the same competition that gives multiple medals to the same small teams or the same individuals (gymnastics, swimming, racing, etc). A nation that made 22 gold medalist athletes in football gets behind one that has made 2 gold medalists in swimming, gymnastics or racing. One of many such sport distortions in the Olympics.

scarabic ,

For people who care about medal count (btw not me) it’s the whole point though to show that you are the biggest with the most people and the most resources. Not that you made the most of what you had or that you have the purest spirit.

Raw industrial capacity and soldier count have decided wars after all, so showing you can amass the most / biggest can hardly be said to be an empty boast. It’s a threat, really.

AngryCommieKender ,

We still got 126 total medals to their 91.

:P

Socsa ,

Almost twice the number of silvers too. If you do like gold is three points, silver is two and bronze is one, the US ends up with a solid 20% margin of victory.

bushvin ,
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So… Europe? 160 ish?

soul ,
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160 ish what, gold? Not even close.

FarceOfWill ,

It only takes three EU countries to beat 40 gold

I got to 70 before getting bored.

zephyreks ,

Technically the US (the country) gets +2 bronzes (Puerto Rico) and China (the country) gets +2 golds and +2 bronzes (Hong Kong)… but this whole comparison is stupid.

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isles ,

The US sent 592 athletes and competed in 34 events.

China sent 388 athletes for 33 events.

FundMECFSResearch ,

Why is Hungary so good at the olympics

return2ozma OP ,
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Somebody please post this to lemmy.world/c/news since I’m banned. I think others would like to know about this news.

JimSamtanko ,

Pathetic man.

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