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Ukraine ambushes Russian convoy in Kursk as Kremlin declares emergency

Ukrainian forces staged an overnight ambush on a Russian convoy 25 miles inside the international border in Russia’s Kursk province, as the Kremlin declared a federal emergency and said it was transferring extra forces to try to snuff out a four-day incursion that has badly damaged its credibility.

A video circulated by Russian military bloggers showed a destroyed convoy, with bodies just visible inside some trucks, on the E38 east-west highway at Oktyabrskoe, a location far deeper inside Russia than any previously confirmed fighting since Ukraine’s forces crossed the border on Tuesday.

Commentators said the attack, reminiscent of Ukrainian attacks on Russian troops besieging Kyiv in the first weeks of the war, demonstrated an effective hit-and-run strategy, but the incursion appeared likely to draw an escalating response from the Kremlin, and its overall outcome remains profoundly uncertain.

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sexy_peach ,
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I blocked it. It makes Lemmy life better. I use Jerboa and blocking is easy and it works well.

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If I had to guess the mods are getting a payment for pass through clicks or have some weird sense of superiority from feeling like they only read centrist publications that they have decided to push on everyone else.

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It would help if they’d stop failing fact checks by using unreliable sources. If you click the MBFC link and then scroll down to the “failed fact checks” section you’ll find several references (including sourcing) to this.

Beryl , (edited )

Yeah you can find all of their FIVE failed fact checks in the last 5 years, most of them consisting in simply reporting on what other seemingly believable sources such as other news outlets or NGOs had said. The outrage ! It’s basically British Fox News /s

RunawayFixer , (edited )

Fox news gets the same credibility rating of “mixed” as the guardian, which should tell you all that you need to know about the credibility of the mbfc site.

Edit for context: fox news commitment to factuality, is so bad that they knowingly air news that they themselves know to be false: www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/…/673132/ Rampant misinformation, sitting on news until they can release at a more opportune time, selective reporting, airing heavily edited footage to make their guy look less like an idiot, … These are all things that fox news does, but I’m hard pressed to find any examples of the guardian doing any of these. And yet still somehow, the mbfc site wants us to believe that the guardian is as untrustworthy as fox news. Somehow I’m not buying it.

njm1314 ,

Also note that apparently the AP wire is a leftist rag.

FangedWyvern42 ,
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Medium? It’s a British broadsheet, they actually have standards. Most of them are credible (unlike the tabloids like the Mail or the Scum).

NegativeLookBehind ,
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My, how the fucking turn tables

lnxtx ,
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Risky move. How russians will retaliate?

mozz ,
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Complain at the UN about how this is totally unfair and they’re not allowed to do that?

That is not a joking suggestion; I predict that sometime next week, that exact thing will happen.

Sibbo ,

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mozz ,
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Your faith in the fleshed out ness of the Lemmy bot ecosystem is an inspiration to us all

Buelldozer ,
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There’s no way that works.

!remindme 1 week

Ersatz86 ,

At least the cake day bot seems to be working.

Happy cake day and many pleasant returns!

Theprogressivist ,
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They’ll probably nuke themselves.

harrys_balzac ,

At least blow up the pipeline while “liberating” it.

Deceptichum ,
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I heard Russia may move to invade Ukraine in response to this risky move.

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

Oh that’s right. Cause it’s “military exercises” that are happening right now yes?

mindlight ,

I also heard that it would just take them 3-4 days to secure Kiev…

Maggoty ,

By counter attacking? Which I’m sure the Ukrainians are ready for? This is already a war.

njm1314 ,

You mean retaliate more than bombing schools and hospitals like they’ve been doing for the last two years? Kidnapping children and slaughtering civilians?

JohnDClay ,

They don’t have any non nuclear retaliation options they’re not already using, and nuclear is a profoundly bad idea.

peopleproblems ,

Although, they could technically use the on their own territory now. It would still likely be an international response, and devastate their own country.

But Putin has bombed apartments for his own gain, I could see him nuke his own land for it too.

ghostdoggtv ,

Same way they always retaliate against superior force. Terror bombing.

HK65 ,

That’s the point, how will they indeed?

This forces Russia into a real dilemma. They can’t just obliterate the Ukrainians with artillery, since doing so would destroy their own oil distribution hub and cut off their own income. They also can’t not do it, since this is a major fiasco, and it becomes worse as time goes by.

So indeed, how will the Russians retaliate? All the risk is on their side now.

NotMyOldRedditName ,

Meanwhile Ukraine can use heavy artillery to defend things like the gas exchange making it a uneven match up.

Defensive bonus + artillery advantage

lennybird ,
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Fucking love this. Think about it:

  • While Russia concentrates defenses in the southern Donetsk region, Ukraine simply pushes forward into Russia itself and grabs easy land. Like squeezing a balloon, the bulge finds the least resistance.
  • It causes domestic unrest and panic.
  • It forces Russia to spread thinner their already-thin resources.
  • It gives Ukraine a bargaining-chip at the negotiating table.
  • It helps nullify net-territorial gains made by Russia elsewhere.
  • It gives Ukrainian forces a boost of morale.
Deestan ,
  • Putin makes a big deal out of how fighting in Ukraine is by volunteers and contained so that “regular russians” are safe. This fight goes on in areas defended by conscripted soldiers, breaking that safety layer.
mindlight ,

If the aggression against Ukraine is maintained by Russian volunteer forces and Russia has to relocate them now, it means that there are no conscripts to use.

Using conscripts pretty much means that Putin admits that it never was a special military operation with 3-4 days to take Kiev. It pretty much sends signals to the Russian people that he is far from being in control and able to contain the situation.

aard ,
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Ukraine took hundreds of prisoners so far, and a fair share of that probably are conscripts. That already is a bit of a mess he’ll have to solve.

Bonesince1997 ,

But for how long…

TacticsConsort ,
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I have to say, this is both incredibly impressive and absolutely fascinating. After such a long stalemate, it’s wonderful to see Ukraine make such progress towards repelling their invaders.

masterofn001 ,

No ambush.

Surprise readiness test.

No incursion.

Special surprise timeshare operations.

Maggoty ,

but the incursion appeared likely to draw an escalating response from the Kremlin, and its overall outcome remains profoundly uncertain.

That’s the entire point. Force the Russians to over commit. Then pull back. Depending on how involved the Ukrainians want the area to be they might stick to raiding. Or they could be digging in hard behind the raiding right now, making ready to make the Russians pay dearly for every inch. But either way they know it’s temporary.

Unless the Russians fuck it up so badly the Ukrainians don’t need to leave.

Viking_Hippie , (edited )

that has badly damaged its credibility.

People should REALLY stop using that word when they mean perceived military strength!

Military strength isn’t credibility and the Russian government isn’t credible no matter how well or how badly its army of fascists and forced conscripts is performing.

thetreesaysbark ,

They also have very little perceived military strength at this point, right? Apart from their nukes I guess.

Wahots ,
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Rybar, a Russian military blogger, said Ukraine’s tactics were to use its armoured vehicles to head towards Russian positions and use a third of them to tie down the defenders while the rest were “bypassing it, entering nearby settlements and setting up ambushes”.

If I were the Ukrainians, I’d send more reinforcements and keep the beachhead up. Russia can have their land back when they give back the parts of Ukraine they illegally annexed in 2014 and 2021.

Frog ,

Maybe that the plan and stopping the oil line to Hungary to pressure them is how they think they will get in the EU.

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