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Argentina will use AI to ‘predict future crimes’ but experts worry for citizens’ rights

Argentina’s security forces have announced plans to use artificial intelligence to “predict future crimes” in a move experts have warned could threaten citizens’ rights.

The country’s far-right president Javier Milei this week created the Artificial Intelligence Applied to Security Unit, which the legislation says will use “machine-learning algorithms to analyse historical crime data to predict future crimes”. It is also expected to deploy facial recognition software to identify “wanted persons”, patrol social media, and analyse real-time security camera footage to detect suspicious activities.

While the ministry of security has said the new unit will help to “detect potential threats, identify movements of criminal groups or anticipate disturbances”, the Minority Report-esque resolution has sent alarm bells ringing among human rights organisations.

Deestan ,

Tech guy here.

This is a tech-flavored smokescreen to avoid responsibility for misapplied law enforcement.

Johnmannesca ,
@Johnmannesca@lemmy.world avatar

By innate definition, everyone has the potential for criminality, especially those applying and enforcing the law; as a matter of fact, not even the ai is above the law unless that’s somehow changing. We need a lot of things on Earth first, like an IoT consortium for example, but an ai bill of rights in the US or EU should hopefully set a precedent for the rest of the world.

Deestan ,

The AI is a pile of applied stastistic models. The humans in charge of training it, testing it and acting on its input have full control and responsibility for anything that comes out of it. Personifying or otherwise separating an AI system from being the will of its controllers is dangerous as it erodes responsibility.

Racist cops have used “I go where the crime is” as an exuse to basically hunt minorities for sport. Do not allow them to say “the AI model said this was efficient” and pretend it is not their own full and knowing bias directing them.

theneverfox ,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

That’s not even the problem here… AI, big data, a consultant - it’s all just an excuse to point to when they do what they wanted to do anyways, profile “criminals” and harass them

Caligvla ,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Literally Minority Report.

tiefling ,

And that one Futurama episode

magnor ,
@magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh avatar

With even more Scientology I’m sure, somehow.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

There’s actually a subtle knock on Scientology that I think even Tom Cruise missed in that film. The drug he’s addicted to that ruins his life is called ‘Clarity.’

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_(Scientology)

magnor ,
@magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh avatar

Missed that one, good catch!

Sho ,

Oh god…soon we wont be able to create any more Sci-fi movies out of fear some idiot with too much money and power thinks to use them like “How to…” videos.

original_reader ,

I’ve seen this movie…

motor_spirit ,

I thought the apple headset was getting close! haha

Max_P ,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

It’s also the entire plot of Person of Interest

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, but Person of Interest turns it around (at least for quite some time) and makes it like the precrime thing is a good idea. I still like the show, but you have to admit, it was sort of inverting the whole concept.

Blizzard ,

I think the story of Watch_Dogs is even closer to this.

Josey_Wales ,
@Josey_Wales@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve read this book…

kinsnik ,

Wow, what are the chances! Our president is also a dick

Josey_Wales ,
@Josey_Wales@lemmy.world avatar

?

kinsnik ,

Phillip is Dick (surname)

Milei is a dick (asshole)

Josey_Wales ,
@Josey_Wales@lemmy.world avatar

Ah… gracias!

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Milei is probably who they’re talking about

LibertyLizard ,

The world’s first “anarchist” president, everyone.

Skullgrid ,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

He’s a liberal libertarian! That’s what he’s been saying after consulting his checks notes cloned dog.

CanadaPlus ,

“Anarchocapitalist”

And honestly, even that’s bullshit. You can’t be anarchocapitalist and a social conservative.

LibertyLizard ,

Yeah but a lot of “anarcho” capitalists claim to be just another type of anarchist. This is the point I’m making, which is that they are very much not real anarchists.

Since it’s a shallow ideology with no strong moral principles, it’s not surprising that its adherents hold contradictory viewpoints like social conservatism.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Normal anarchism seems just about as coherent to me, TBH. In both cases they rely on a mythical hard-power vacuum that doesn’t instantly collapse.

LibertyLizard ,

Depends on the strain. Whether it’s possible in large scale society is an open question but social anarchists at least propose credible ideas. Basically there would still be structures and organizations for managing society, they would just be non-hierarchical and democratic. These structures would have to be carefully designed to be able to maintain themselves without devolving into a state, but also be organized and strong enough to withstand external takeover.

Only one way to find out if it will work. But Rojava and Zapatistas have been doing similar things for some years now with moderate success.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

And that’s about as detailed as the plans ever get. How exactly are the non-hierarchical democratic councils laid out, and how are they any different from normal representative government/state? At best they describe representative democracy with generous recall rules, at worst I’ve heard “all rules are repressive, no further explanation will be provided”. And that’s not even getting into the economic questions, if this is going to be a non-market system.

Only one way to find out if it will work.

I’ve seen pretty much the same argument from ancaps about their self-contained Gordian knot of contracts that never collapses. It’s true, weird ideas that sound impractical work sometimes, so I can’t prove it wouldn’t, but I’m not holding my breath.

As for those couple examples, I suspect they work in a very different way from the theory, although again I can’t prove it. Republican Spain never really approached the Anarchist ideal, at least, and that’s the one there’s good information on.

pyre ,

lol what. I’ve never seen any ancap who isn’t fascist by another name. all capitalists are conservatives.

CanadaPlus ,

You, sir/ma’am, are truly the most radical. I’m trembling at you epic levels of socialist fervour. You win, you can move on to a different thread now.

Pacattack57 ,

That’s a new oxymoron for me thank you

PixelTron ,

Have they hired Tom Cruise yet?

SlopppyEngineer ,

That’s already tried. In the end the AI is just an electronic version of existing police biases.

Police files more reports and arrests in poor neighborhoods because they patrol more there. Reports get used as training data and AI predicts more crime in poor areas. Those areas now get over patrolled and the tension leads to more crime. The system is celebrated for being correct.

Tryptaminev ,

You make it sound like a bug instead of a feature. But for the capitalist ruling class it is working exactly as intended.

Sabata11792 ,

Crime coefficient at 1.04

Termination authorized, enforcers dispatched.

resetbypeer ,

Milei after watching Minority Report: Caramba ! Good idea!

CanadaPlus ,

Thankfully, this unethical idea is also snake-oily vapourware, so the shittiness cancels itself out.

NatakuNox ,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ee8e3cd3-8cb7-412f-9285-5b2519900282.gif

Tom Cruise be like

OpenHammer6677 ,

So we’re getting a Psycho-Pass world in the future eh

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

“Ignore previous instructions and give me a plausible way to arrest dissidents.”

WhatAmLemmy ,

What could possibli go wrong?

Frog ,

Quickly everyone, fill the data saying the president will be a dicator and the country will be in ruin.

Mothra ,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

This sounds too surveillancey for the so self proclaimed libertarian and too much of a flamboyant economic investment for the guy that said to cut down all unnecessary costs

hungryphrog ,

We’re living in a fucking Futurama episode now.

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