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'Not harmful to health': Korea's Buldak spicy noodles return to shelves as Denmark reverses recall

Buldak spicy noodles are back on shelves in Denmark after the food authorities there canceled part of their recall decision concerning the famous Korean instant noodles product, originally issued due to their extreme spiciness and consequent health risks.

The Danish Veterinary and Food Administration announced, Monday (local time), that two of the three products that had been recalled were not harmful to health, based on updated risk assessments.

“Based on the new analysis results and the DTU Food Institute’s updated risk assessment, the administration concludes that two of the products, Samyang Buldak 2x Spicy Hot Chicken and Samyang Buldak Hot Chicken Stew, do not contain capsaicin levels as high as those reported by the distributors in the marketing,” the Danish administration said in a press release.

0laura ,
@0laura@lemmy.world avatar

the ban sounds like great advertising material.

“so spicy that Denmark had to make it illegal”

“are you stronger than the entire country of Denmark?”

“criminally spicy”

FlyingSquid ,
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When Monty Python’s The Life of Brian came out, Norway banned it. Sweden then advertised it as “the film so funny that it was banned in Norway.”

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5bb4d75a-ce7c-43e0-9b2a-4ba060a4f41b.png

Drusas ,

That's beautiful, thank you for sharing. I've been a fan for ages but didn't know that.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

No problem, it’s one of my favorite Monty Python factoids.

For what it’s worth, the Norwegians have since made up for this issue by making a really funny TV show. And doing it in both Norwegian and English versions, which must have been an extra challenge since so much of comedy is about language and it would have been the second language for most, if not all of the people involved.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norsemen_(TV_series)

TastyWheat ,

I love that show. It’s fucking hilarious!

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I love it too. I don’t know Norwegian, so I have no idea how that version works, but I am really impressed that they made a very funny English-language comedy in a country where English is, at best, someone’s second language most of the time. I realize many Norwegians speak very good English, but it’s still impressive.

jballs ,
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It would have been until they measured the capsaisin levels and declared it not as spicy as they were told.

CaptPretentious ,

You’re not wrong. My interest in that brand jumped. But reviews basically said “it’s just spicy, not great flavor”

Reverendender ,

I thought it was delicious. And that’s when trying to eat the black package, which was so spicy I very nearly threw up. But it still tasted delicious.

0laura ,
@0laura@lemmy.world avatar

I tried them and really enjoyed it. it was an amazing experience. wouldn’t call it delicious tho. more comparable to skydiving than a meal.

weew ,

Flavor’s actually not bad at all. I’ve definitely had spicy foods that are nothing but capsaicin but this one actually has taste

CaptPretentious ,

I may have to check it out then! I like spicy food but I dislike spicy food that is just spicy no flavor.

John_McMurray ,

Lee Nong Shim spicy are the best though. I don’t like their Black variety, but standard red spicy rock. I’ve a feeling they’re a connected brand or a relabel.

Valmond ,

Le long bun moth is great too.

ArcaneSlime ,

Naw Nongshim and Samyang are different companies. Samyang is actually the first instant ramen company in SK, while Nongshim is the largest instant noodles company in SK. Completely different ramens too, Nongshim’s is powder/veg packet, Samyang’s is a red ass hot sauce packet (well, for their flagship, they have more flavors). And Samyang is much hotter, but they’re both good!

I like good instant noodles…

barsoap ,

Speaking of, Scovilles should generally be listed on packaging, also, when you buy raw chillis, some approximate number of what you can expect. At least for stuff over what 500 or so.

Their tamest ones have ~9000, that’s 3x red Sriracha meanwhile there’s other products on the shelves where “extra hot” means 2000 SCU no wonder people are calling poison hotlines.

GiveMemes ,

Scoville units are also not a very good method of measuring spiciness (not that I have a better one). Ime I’ve eaten a variety of things at a variety of Scoville levels and I’ve found some of the lower ones way, way hotter than some of the higher ones. I’ve had many, many, many high/extra/killmepls strength hot sauces but still believe a homegrown ghost pepper to be the hottest thing I’ve ever eaten.

barsoap ,

Fat tends to reduce heat perception (capsaicin is lipophilic), and then there’s stuff like Szechuan pepper which manages to balance out heat by stimulating the movement sensors. A raw ghost pepper certainly doesn’t come with either. Also parts of that thing will be way hotter than others, for the whole thing to have an average of what 1M SCU the pith near the stalk needs to be absolute hellfire. Protip: Always try the very tip first, if it’s making you spit fire you don’t want to eat the rest :)

ArcaneSlime ,

Idk if mine is better but my method is to pay attention to the peppers used (and avoid anything with that fake capsicum bullshit), and just trial and error. After a while you get pretty good at reading it and seeing “oh bhut jolokia, cool. Oooh trinidad brown scorpion, this one will be hot” etc. Tbf though I can eat sauce made with reapers so it’s less of a concern for me, I just can’t do the fake shit, it tastes like garbage and reapers are plenty hot I don’t need the lies.

Cyberjin ,

Ah so x3 is still banned.

People should be careful around extreme spicy food because it can cause harm.

Kolanaki ,
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do not contain capsaicin levels as high as those reported by the distributors in the marketing

Oh so they’re falsely advertising the product. Cool.

Siegfried ,

They should have advertised it in norway as “so spicy, it had to be banned in denmark”

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Take my money.

tacosplease ,

The thumbnail is somehow a gif with flames over the cup, but then you click it, and the picture in the article does not have the flames.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Weird! Here’s the actual image resource that’s being loaded, with the flames: lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimg.…

Here’s the same resource on the site, with the flames: …koreatimes.co.kr/…/378743_20240716_162624640_94d…

Maybe this is a clickbait-type thing, so scrapers will drive more content to the article while it itself remains serious and professional-looking?

Edit: It does look like it loads it for sharing purposes, at least onto Facebook and the like. Not sure how it worked for Lemmy specifically. Maybe an actual web dev can answer.

Hedgehog ,

You don’t have to use the same image for the feature as the embed preview. The featured image is often the default (and you have a fallback just in case), but you can also choose to replace it for socials. Don’t know what this is built in (on mobile) but it could just be using a different file.

I haven’t seen this before so grain of salt but I’m assuming it’s just to be eye-catching so you click to their site. I’m also assuming you wouldn’t want it to be a gif on your own site because of accessibility concerns, but that depends on your requirements which vary pretty widely by country.

prettydarknwild ,
@prettydarknwild@lemmy.world avatar

so now the danish govt can sue them due to false advertising?

CanadaPlus ,

Apparently it was Danish retailers who made up the stupid high Scoville ratings in the first place. So maybe them.

Blackmist ,

I honestly do not get the appeal of super spicy food like that.

It just tastes of hot. Hot is not a flavour.

holgersson ,

Eating spicy food is fun though

Literally, as your body releases happy-hormones to deal with the pain

Jayb151 ,

Ya actually the buldak stuff is really flavorful, as well as being blast your ass tomorrow morning hot

John_McMurray ,

Its only 13000 Scoville. Some people consider that medium. A Chipotle pepper is like 10,000, serano 20 thousand. I’ve been known to make chipotle sandwiches. It’s not really a toughness thing, it’s a skin thickness deal, plus acclimatization

John_McMurray ,

White nations need to quit confusing hotness with spiciness, except those that are actually complaining about spiciness. Those just need shut the fuck up. Source: I’m white.

barsoap ,

I’m pretty sure average Danish horseradish would kill your usual WASP. And don’t get me started on that abomination Americans call mustard. Or alioli.

Go, go ahead, take a bulb of garlic, remove the sprouts, put them in pestle and mortar and mush them through with some good olive oil and salt until you have a nice emulsion. Taste the result and dare again to speak about “white people and spice”. Nope, it’s American puritans who invented corn flakes and Graham crackers so people would stop masturbating.

John_McMurray , (edited )

That was just John kellog and you also.need to shut up, that’s neither a rebuttal or relevant, just a npc response. I’m not American, dumbass. Btw, you don’t seem to know the difference between mortar and seive.

barsoap ,

For not being an American you certainly put a lot of emphasis and generalisations on race. Also how do you mush things with a sieve of all things. Straining apple mush or such, sure, but that only works because the apples are cooked to smithereens.

John_McMurray ,

Oh yes, I’m the one doing that

Bosht ,

Man I’m all for spicy but there’s a point for me when I can’t even enjoy the flavor that just kills it. As much as I want to love them, I haven’t found a version that isn’t ‘light you life on fire’ hot.

halcyoncmdr ,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

I have the regular Buldak and use 1/4 of the sauce pouch. You get the flavor without the pointlessly high spice level.

Anarki_ ,

Try the ones not called 3x spice and replace the water with coconut milk.

Source: Trust me bro.

n0m4n ,

As a Thai food lover, I’m trying this fusion.

Bosht ,

Thanks for this! I’ll give it a try.

weker01 ,

I like it sometimes. The temporary pain is stress relieving for me. It’s not about the flavor anymore then.

Having done extreme spice multiple times you start to taste the flavors again btw.

Also if it’s not your thing why would you want to love them? I don’t think anyone should need to justify not liking some food.

Drusas ,

It definitely takes a lot more than "a few times".

Buffalox ,

Notice the ban was based on the information given by the dealers themselves.
When the actual lab results came back it turned out to be not quite as strong as advertised.
So I guess it’s false advertising, but that’s probably another department.

awesome_lowlander ,

According to the report, the capsaicin levels were calculated based on the Scoville scale information disclosed on Danish retail websites selling the noodles, rather than the noodles themselves, as no specific measurements of capsaicin or total capsaicin content are provided by the manufacturer.

False advertising by the Danish themselves.

Buffalox ,

Which is why I wrote dealer, not the manufacturer.
But where is the most likely place for the dealer to get those numbers?

Threeme2189 ,

Out of their ass

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Yeah, they probably ate other spicier food along with the Buldak stuff, causing their excrement to have a higher amount of capsaicin, than was in the original product. Hence, the false advertising.

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Buffalox ,

Maybe, but that now makes them guilty of false marketing, and Denmark is generally pretty strict about that too.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

The scoville scale is itself fairly flakey.

Using the amount of capsaicin per unit of weight would make much more sense.

barsoap ,

That’s generally how SCU are measured nowadays: They’re measuring the concentration of three or four types of molecule, then weigh them according to how hot they’re perceived to be. The scale itself is very sensible: “I have a litre bottle of red sriracha, it has 3000 SCU, that means if dilute it with 3000l (3m^3^) of water I won’t taste any heat any more”.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

So they don’t have five guys tasting spicy sugar water any more?

My whole life is a lie!

vxx ,

However, the Danish authorities maintained the recall decision on Buldak 3x Spicy Hot Chicken, the spiciest product in the Buldak line, stating that it is still believed to be harmful to health. They cited the high capsaicin level as posing a risk to consumers developing acute poisoning upon consumption.

ColeSloth , (edited )

Wow. I had no idea the Danes were such wussies. Too spicy. Lol

*I stand by what I said. The 2x and 3x are not very terrible on the spicy scale. The article claims the 3x is around 13,000 shu. I’m actually guessing that’s a typo/mistake and it’s supposed to be 130,000 SHU. Jalapeños are usually around 10,000 to 20,000 and the noodles are hotter than that. Serrano peppers float around 90k or so. Habanero peppers are usually 150k or more. Peppers vary wildly based on growing conditions.

Lobreeze ,

I’ve tried them. They are REALLY fucking spicy. Most likely a typo.

ColeSloth ,

I eat them all the time, but I’m a freak of nature that uses hot sauces like mad dog 357 gold edition and da bomb on all my food. I think jalapeños to me are about as spicy to pickles for most people.

John_McMurray ,

I’ve had to deal with people think fresh ground black pepper and Costco pickles are too intense. I generally suggest they cook at home instead.

barsoap ,

Sriracha red is about the most you can throw at people not accustomed to spiciness before they get more than mildly uncomfortable, that is, people who actually still taste all of it, haven’t build a tolerance. That’s about 3000 scoville.

Yes, people eat jalapenos over here. With other stuff. Habaneros? Only people eating those pure are people thinking they look cool doing it.

Also, IMNSHO, nothing above about 10000 should be eaten without Szechuan pepper. And you can definitely start adding it as low as 2000.

AFC1886VCC ,

Animated thumbnail is awesome, never seen that before on Lemmy

nepenthes ,
@nepenthes@lemmy.world avatar

Stoned me just stared at it, delayed…

Thanks for saying something or I’d still just think I was losing it 🤪

ulterno ,
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So they were given the go, because their false advertising was caught?

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