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i_have_no_enemies OP , (edited )

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    AdamEatsAss ,

    I believe some of the blame should go to Israel for the years of systematically oppressing and chipping away the rights of the Palestinians. It takes 2 to tango. The people of Palestine were forced to resort to extremist tactics because if they stayed with deplomacy Israel would have slowly killed them anyway.

    themeatbridge ,

    No, come on. None of the blame for rape goes anywhere but the rapist. Nothing, no level of oppression, justified rape. This is something we should all be able to agree upon.

    AdamEatsAss ,

    I agree rape it bad. Your previous statements generalized an entire group of people based on the actions of a few. Your argument is that because Hamas has raped people, Israel has the right to exterminate all of Palestine. My argument is that had Israel not taken land and oppressed the Palestinians they would never have had the need to support an extremest group.

    i_have_no_enemies OP ,

    My argument is that had Israel not taken land and oppressed the Palestinians they would never have had the need to support an extremest group.

    before israel existed there was palestinian/arab agression, zionism became non-peaceful after repeated agression from the islamists

    read about killing of moshe barsky and hebron massacres

    glimse ,

    zionism became non-peaceful after repeated agression from the islamists

    Was this before or after Israel stole their land?

    i_have_no_enemies OP ,

    israel didn’t steal any land, first it was a small state made up of area that jews bought, arabs attacked and we all know the agressors lose land if they attack , and now we are here

    glimse ,

    so everyone was just cool with the changing borders?

    Deceptichum ,
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    Israel was founded on terrorism, leading to the British leaving Mandatory Palestine and the Israelis to colonise the lands.

    The 1939 white paper plan was to give the land to the Arab(Palestinian) peoples living there within the next 10 years.

    Israeli terrorists along with literal Israeli Nazi sympathiser groups like Lehi, launched terrorist attacks and assassinations of British such as the King David Hotel bombing or killing of Lord

    They were upset because Britain was not allowing more Jewish people to move over and invade the land.

    Israel stole Palestine through colonialism and terrorism.

    Don’t try to paint anyone else as the original aggressor here except Israelis.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_Palestine

    themeatbridge ,

    That’s fair, and it wasn’t my statement or my argument. I agree with you that all of Palestine is also not responsible for the actions of Hamas, nor is it reasonable to engage in genocide in response to terrorist attacks, even including rape.

    xor ,

    posts celebrating the Hamas massacre of October 7th minutes after it began

    ah, so they all knew of the rapes minutes after the attack began and were celebrating it…
    and it was rape, in particular, that they were celebrating…
    thanks for clarifying that

    i_have_no_enemies OP ,

    the pols conducted mentioned it

    xor ,

    negative

    jordanlund ,
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    Removed for posting NSFW images without warning.

    Put them behind a link, mark them appropriately, we’re all good. Let the users decide what they want or don’t want to see.

    i_have_no_enemies OP ,

    sorry

    jordanlund ,
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    No worries, it’s easy to get caught up in the moment!

    autotldr Bot ,

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    The Israeli medical community, usually reluctant to consider such scenarios, has recently actively been preparing for the appalling possibility of several female hostages who were raped in captivity and subsequently become pregnant.

    According to sources who spoke with Maariv, there have been comprehensive discussions in hospitals across the country about preparing for the return of Israeli hostages who have been sexually assaulted by Hamas terrorists and are currently at different stages of pregnancy.

    Beyond this period, terminations are overseen by a special committee of senior doctors, which also consider cases of fetuses with congenital disabilities, the mother’s mental health, or even pregnancies resulting from rape.

    However, as time passes, there is increasing concern that captives will have to undergo a late termination of pregnancy, in which drugs are used to stop the fetus’s heart activity with a needle.

    Unfortunately, Israel’s mental health system is so inadequately resourced, with long waiting times and insufficient services for the entire population in need.

    Stress, polluted environments, and the absence of medical supervision amplify the complications and dangers of pregnancy for the mother, even before considering the appalling psychological aspect.

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