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TheBlue22 ,

Nothing new for russians, they have have been starving people on purpose for decades. Just look at holodomor.

d4rknusw1ld ,

This is likely the trigger to Ukraine air space becoming a no fly zone defended by allies.

fist_of_fartitude ,
@fist_of_fartitude@sh.itjust.works avatar

Probably not, no.

d4rknusw1ld ,

Wishful thinking.

PenguinJuice ,

Oh great, more crisis. I can't wait to not be able to afford grain :(

Legarth ,

Depending on where you are from, there won’t be much change in the price the experts say… But grain to poor countries in for example Africa will be effected much more.

So Putin is mad about losing in Ukraine, so now Africa have to suffer also …

PenguinJuice ,

Man, Africa cannot catch a break

Puppy ,
@Puppy@kbin.social avatar

To be fair, from what I've seen on Twitter, tons and tons of Africans are supporting Russia and Putin's ego war so they can get fucked by Russia as much as they want. They will blame Ukraine for not surrendering earlier.

galloog1 ,

I think this is ultimately why the deal was struck in the first place to be honest. It wasn’t hurting the right people.

saltesc ,

Just remember there’s 48 countries, not just “Africa”. Depending which country or even which area of a country you’re looking, you’ll find a part of Africa ruining Africa or a part of Africa being ruined by Africa. It’s a socially and politically wild place, mostly due to corruption and sectarianism. So, while a few support Russia, others are aiding Ukraine, others entirely indifferent to what’s going on.

Lenins2ndCat ,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

Just remember there’s 48 countries, not just “Africa”.

The numbers: 15 abstained on the UN condemnation vote. 23 opposed condemning. 10 voted to condemn.

_wintermute ,

Imagine condemning an entire continent based off what you, a random clown, saw a few bots say on Twitter. You are the useful idiot. How is this drivel positively voted on lmao

Puppy ,
@Puppy@kbin.social avatar

random clown

useful idiot

Wow, well my man, you sure know how to look like an intelligent human being if the first and only argument you have is throwing insult at random people.

I'm sure you have a lot of friend.

_wintermute ,

I’m not here to argue with you. I’m here to point out your blatant xenophobia and how wrong it is. Have a nice day.

Shardikprime ,

How was he being xenophobic

Puppy ,
@Puppy@kbin.social avatar

In no way was I xenophobic. This guy has issues and is obviously mentally impaired. Ignore, block and don't interact with this troll.

Anybody can go on Twitter right now and see what I've said is true. He may not like it, but reality does not give a shit about his feelings

_wintermute ,

The fact that you think Twitter is reality is telling of your mental capacity/age. I’m glad to have participated in your crippling levels of butthurt, though. Look at you frothing lmao

Puppy ,
@Puppy@kbin.social avatar

That's the most idiotic thing I have ever read on the internet the whole week but it's only Monday so you have nothing to be proud of. Take back your stupid shit you are spewing and do not ever communicate with me again ever.

You too have a wonderful day 😊

Clbull ,

After what the West did to Africa, can you really blame them for supporting Russian and Chinese foreign policy, especially when both nations have shown a far greater willingness to invest in the continent in recent years?

Lenins2ndCat ,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

Russia also benefits very heavily from goodwill in Africa generated by the Soviet Union’s colonial liberation legacy. A very large number of states there owe their sovereignty to Soviet support in overthrowing colonial rule.

marx2k ,

They should probably stop supporting Russia

_wintermute ,

Imagine the amount of ignorance of history that goes into a comment like this. Do you really believe an entire continent of countries/people support or even give a fuck about Russia when they’re worried they’re going to starve?

The victim blaming in this thread is atrocious. All because of a perception that a few Africans support Russia on Twitter.

marx2k ,

If it were just a Twitter thing, I’d agree

csis.org/…/great-power-competition-implications-a…

_wintermute ,

Governments: starting wars that most people don’t want

People: starving because governments are at war and don’t give a shit about them

You: “Hah, fuck those people because governments are at war. They get what they deserve, those people who only want to eat.”

sorenant ,

Russia pulls out of grain deal > Russia causes global food price increase > Russia causes poorer families in US/EU to go hungry > Russia is engaging a war of aggression on NATO > ARTICLE 5

Mereo ,

Not that simple: Here’s article 5:

“The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.”

Article 5 is invoked If it constitutes an armed attack. In this case, food insecurity is not an armed attack.

sorenant ,

Putin used his hands, therefore arms, to sign the decision which means it’s an armed attack. ARTICLE 5

maik ,

I have arms and I feel attacked. ARTICLE 5

sorenant ,

That’s your fault for not having bear arms as the second amendment wanted you to.

Ronno ,
@Ronno@kbin.social avatar

Are you sure you want WWIII? Because that’s basically what you are preaching.

Listening to the stories of my grandparents, another World War is not something I want

procrastinator ,

There is no way WW3 doesn’t lead to nuclear destruction of our planet

sorenant ,

How about a global special military operation then?

Buddahriffic ,

If only the powers that could have opposed the belligerent nation in WWII had tried negotiation and peace before rushing in to battle!

copylefty ,
@copylefty@lemmy.fosshost.com avatar

This is such a dumb take. Westerners cheering for nuclear war

Countess425 ,
@Countess425@lemmy.world avatar

He’s trying to cause an immigration crisis; people in Africa can’t afford food so they will try to immigrate to Europe, either legally or not, and strain the resources and increase cultural divides. It was the whole reason Putin started fucking with the grain supply as soon as he could. He was hoping the immigration crisis and energy crisis would overlap and make each other worse, but The Netherlands recently dissolved their government over the immigration crisis, so now is good too.

Lenins2ndCat ,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

If you apply the same logic to US sanctions on north korea, Cuba, Venezuela etc etc they all have casus belli to nuke america. It’s a silly justification.

sorenant ,

That’s just internal conflict because every country belongs to America.

milos_obilic ,

Easy there Poland.

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