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dogslayeggs ,

I’ll categorize this under “nothing is going to happen.”

There is a mutual defense treaty that pretty much all North/South American countries signed. Venezuela is not going to war with the US. That wouldn’t end well, and Maduro knows it. This is just posturing to gain the support of nationalists.

fosforus OP ,

Holding a “referendum” (95% voting as the ruler wants), mobilizing army, … I don’t know. Doesn’t look good. Yeah, USA should be able to wipe them out pretty easily, unless they have some sort of a deeper plan there.

dogslayeggs ,

From what I read, the results of that referendum weren’t completely above the board. Some ridiculous percentage of the total population cast votes, which isn’t typical of a country where voting isn’t compulsory.

gravitas_deficiency ,

Not to mention, many sources I’ve seen indicate this “referendum” had comically poor turnout, despite the statistics they reported.

lurch ,

People on reddit were still commenting with things like “nothing is going to happen” after the first news arrived that russians had crossed the border.

apropos: it wouldn’t surprise me, if putin had his dirty fingers in that too. would be a good way of distracting the US.

dogslayeggs , (edited )

I see a big difference between Russia (one of the world’s largest armies who has invaded Ukraine and Georgia in very recent times) possibly invading a country without any mutual defense treaty, and Venezuela (who hasn’t been in any type of war since the civil wars in the early 1900s) invading a country with a mutual defense treaty with the US. Brazil has already mobilized troops on their border with Venezuela. EDIT: I can’t find whether they still have a mutual defense treaty with the US. They aren’t part of the Rio Pact.

I was not one of the people saying “nothing is going to happen” on Reddit about Ukraine. After Crimea and Georgia, I didn’t doubt Putin would do something.

troyunrau ,
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I guess we will wait and see. If I’m a pretty tin pot dictator, I’m looking at openings and going “the US is distracted at the moment. We won’t get a better shot…”

Telodzrum ,

Putting artillery shells on cargo planes hardly counts as “distracted.”

Candelestine ,

They are not part of the Rio Pact. They have no defense treaties that I am aware of.

Candelestine , (edited )

And that’ll make four continents seeing war. Nobody is conquering Australia, right? And Antarctica is still demilitarized?

edit: And fortunately NA only has three large fucking countries on it. But I guess we’re kinda working on it.

Fucking madness.

I hope people that study history remember. We’re not good for much, in the grand scheme of things. We don’t build stuff, we can’t tell people which ideas are best, we don’t have any unique skills that are only acquired in the field of history.

There is one thing we can do though, sometimes, when opportunity presents and times require. And I’d almost call it a duty, because we’re actually the only ones that can see it all. It’s what we’re for, and it’s why when times get their darkest, we’re one of the first targets.

We know this.

edit2 because that was disrespectful to smaller Caribbean and C American nations.

fosforus OP ,

China attacking Taiwan would cover that side of the planet pretty nicely, I think. They haven’t done that yet, right?

Candelestine ,

Afghanistan is seeing their standard civil strife stuff and Myanmar exploded recently. India and China are also frequently skirmishing around the Himalayas. Off the top of my head.

fosforus OP ,

Cool, cool.

gravitas_deficiency ,

To be fair, Myanmar has been in the process of exploding since their military conducted a coup in 2021.

But also, don’t forget that China added another line to their entirely nonsensical and geopolitically-irrelevant 9-dash line!

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