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niktemadur ,

This would not have happened if the non-voting bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe idiots had bothered to vote in 2016, allowing republicans to stage a executive and legislative right-wing coup of the supreme court.

But here we are. And their ostrich head-in-the-sand response to this ruling and their passively complicit role in it will most likely and idiotically be, once again, yOu SeE? bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe

“I voted once ten years ago, and I didn’t get my pony overnight. bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe”
Now thanks to these lazy, mediocre “muh purity” reprobates cutting off their noses to spite ALL our faces, things are now sliding faster toward a “yee-haw!” banana republic from within.

SeattleRain ,

Bruh, there’s a right wing majority on the bench because Obama in an unprecedented move, gave his Supreme Court pick to Trump.

phoenixz ,

Well, Obama tired playing by the rules to which the Republicans just kicked the pieces over and shat all over the board.

Kolrami ,

This is… not true. Orrin Hatch said if Obama nominated someone like Merrick Garland, the Republican Senate would approve it. Obama nominated him, then the Republican Senate said “psych.”

The checks and balances were broken by the Republican Senate because they decided “advice and consent” could be abused to mean “wait until there’s a Republican president.”

The public decided the solution to this was selecting a Republican president and keeping a Republican Senate. It’s a perfect plan for Republicans, because people on the left just blame Democrats so that the same pattern can happen again next time.

SeattleRain ,

No it is true, nominating Garland to begin with was a major capitulation to Republicans. He was basically a moderate Republican that made the base not care about the nomination.

And Democrats could of and should have shut down the government over what McConnell did but did what they always do. Perform a right wing ratchet where they simple stop the country from becoming right wing but never push it left. Then when a Rep comes into office the push the country right once again which is exactly what happened.

Kolrami ,

Case in point

CapgrasDelusion , (edited )

Agree entirely except the part about the people keeping a Republican Senate. The Senate is rigged. 1 person from Wyoming should not have the same power as 65 from California. The entire point of the Senate is to rig things against what most people want if it goes against what small states want.

“According to James Madison, “The use of the Senate is to consist in proceeding with more coolness, with more system, and with more wisdom, than the popular branch.””

By far the popular vote is not for the GOP and hasn’t been since 2004. The Senate makes sure that doesn’t matter. Gerrymandering the house does the rest.

Similar to the Senate issue, the last time a Republican won both the popular vote and the electoral vote was again 2004. The electoral college is the same problem compounded. The people haven’t picked a Republican president in 20 years.

boatsnhos931 ,

The real question is why would you want to be rehired. I understand a settlement check but I mean were you really digging the job that much to begin with?

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Much more important to dig your job than have food on the table and roof over your head.

boatsnhos931 ,

You are right, Starbucks has a monopoly on high paying careers… plus the perks…free coffee and an unlimited supply of shitheads. Go on man lol

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Everyone has access to high paying career alternatives, sure bro.

boatsnhos931 ,

Who’s fault is that??? Are you saying that these people live in the wilderness area with only Starbucks? You choose to work at a place that serves coffee… a janitor makes more, a landscaper makes more… hell be a bartender…it’s basically a barista with alcohol and a lot better tips… brotato chip 😎

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, we get it. You are really cool. What I am actually saying is that in capitalist society there are people who have no other viable options than to sell their labor for survival. This skews the power dynamics so that the employers may dictate the terms of their agreement. If all the other jobs available to these people fall under the same category, they are fucked.

I wouldn’t expect such a cool person^TM^ as yourself to understand this though, much less sympathize with the plight of those in question. Keep on being an ass 😎

boatsnhos931 ,

My latte ain’t gonna make itself boy, chop chophttps://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a5758977-af46-4a78-9830-fecc8476ebcc.png

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Must be difficult for you to be such a loser.

boatsnhos931 ,

I’ve heard that before and I’m working on it…kind of…https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/239d27bc-bd7a-4c63-8f6d-9552bf94e6fa.gif

Fedizen ,

healthcare

boatsnhos931 ,

I read a couple places that it’s terrible but healthcare.gov is pretty great ngl…I did hear you get that Spotify premium tho fr fr bussin

DudeImMacGyver ,

Shocker.

CatZoomies ,
@CatZoomies@lemmy.world avatar

I never would have guessed that the captured regulators would choose the owner class over the working class.

Cryophilia ,

The regulators are the National Labor Relations Board, who brought the suit attempting to force Starbucks to re-hire them. The regulators are doing their jobs in this case. The courts, especially the Suprene Court, are the ones captured.

atro_city ,

Americans while their unionization efforts are being destroyed: guess I'll buy another iPhone/venti latte/amazon product/...

Viking_Hippie ,

And I had been on such a good run of nobody saying shit relevant to this comic…😮‍💨

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/889b1b6e-5b9a-416d-873d-6e5949e6b29e.jpeg

LucidDaemon ,

Saving this

atro_city ,

I can't admit I'm part of the problem, so I'm not

Viking_Hippie ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e18c13c9-ce23-460c-853d-1e3a53b75102.jpeg

atro_city ,

Ha ha ha, I don't get the point, so I'll project my incomprehension with a comic.

Viking_Hippie ,

Nope. It’s you that aren’t comprehending that there’s no ethical consumption in capitalism and that there’s also no survival without consumption.

Thus it’s literally impossible to live up to your imaginary standards of caring about workers without being a hypocrite.

An argument that you’re making in bad faith, from ignorance, or both.

bassomitron ,

Don’t you know, you can just go live off the grid and become completely self sustaining… Wait, how do you pay for your property taxes… Hm…

Kimano ,

I mean that guy is being an idiot, but it’s also not quite that simple. There is still more and less ethical consumption. A fairphone is more ethical than an iPhone, and pointing that out in good faith to someone complaining about Apple’s behavior seems entirely fair.

It’s not a complete fallacy to point out that someone is consuming something less ethical when they have a better option. Obviously it’s impossible for anyone to do this with literally everything, but absolutely you can avoid Starbucks because of their treatment of unions, and frequent a local coffee shop instead.

Granted this is mostly assuming two people having a good faith discussion, which on the internet is infrequent lol.

Viking_Hippie ,

A fairphone is more ethical than an iPhone, and pointing that out in good faith to someone complaining about Apple’s behavior seems entirely fair.

True. However, a Fairphone isn’t available to everyone. Every place that sells phones will offer you several kinds of iPhones with several payment plan options for those of us who don’t have $1000 available immediately. Same with several brands of Android phones for those of us that aren’t gullible enough to buy into the overpriced walled garden bullshit of Apple.

Fairphone, on the other hand, isn’t available from your local provider, though. You have to buy them outright online. At least that’s how it is here in Denmark.

Your example actually proves my point further: iPhones are universally available whether you can really afford one or not, whereas getting a Fairphone is much less straightforward in every way.

I’d love for my next phone to be a Fairphone but unless my financial situation changes significantly, that’s not possible due to the universal favoring of less ethical brands.

It’s not a complete fallacy to point out that someone is consuming something less ethical when they have a better option

Bolded the key words. The frequent lack of an ethical (or even less unethical) option is my point. The only way to ALWAYS have the ethical choice available you ironically have to be wealthier than is ethically achievable.

absolutely you can avoid Starbucks because of their treatment of unions, and frequent a local coffee shop instead.

Not always, no. Like Walmart with grocery stores, Starbucks have been forcing out competitors to the point that they have de facto monopolies on coffee shops in some areas. You can’t choose a local shop if it doesn’t exist.

Granted this is mostly assuming two people having a good faith discussion, which on the internet is infrequent lol.

True lol

Rooskie91 ,

Hey fuck face, I didn’t ask to be born here, and there isn’t really other things to buy in America. So fuck you and the anti-solidarity horse you rode in on.

Also, what a ridiculous leap of logic to make. “Stupid Americans, always,” shuffles deck of ridiculous hypotheticals "celebrating union losses by buying iPhones.

atro_city ,

You didn't ask to be born there, but you don't have to belong to the group of Americans that consume without any regard.

Also, how is knowingly buying products from anti-union companies a "leap of logic"? Do you even know what that means?
You don't need to buy Apple products to function in society, nor do you need Starbucks products, nor do you have to use Amazon. There are small local retailers you can support, as well as fair trade products, second hand goods you can purchase, and a lot more.

Friggin' iPhone lovers get triggered so easily.

Woovie ,

You’re a doofus

barsquid ,

Be kind, they’re just 13 years old.

funkless_eck ,

how do you get a well paid job without a computer and phone?

MonkeMischief ,

Having worked in an environment helping people who either didn’t have either, or didn’t know how to use them, and needed jobs…I discovered basically the answer is somewhere between “Wait outside at Home Depot” or “You don’t.”

littlewonder ,

Yes, let’s all give up on labor rights if at any point the only reasonable option is to buy from a corporation.

You might want to familiarize yourself with the concept of whataboutism so you can at least make logical arguments on your hot takes.

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Actually my wife worked for a company that used iPhones and provided her a phone. I suppose, at the point she was worried about job precarity and got a separate non-work phone, she could have gone android (the principle offerings of which are also FOXCONN made) but she was quite busy with an agenda from her company (to which she was loyal) to learn a new user interface and alternate between the two.

I, in the meantime, had no company phone, and was on a tight budget, so I went android and shopped around, not for a fair-trade phone but for one on opportunistic sale, as I can’t afford a conscience.

Apple sucks. But really, so does Google. So does Sony. So does Samsung. So, evidently, does Asus, though I like their interface choices more.

In the end, we consumers end-users don’t have the political power to influence the market when the government fails to be public serving. (Called government failure since that’s Its alleged job.) It’s why we erected a non-feudalist government in the first place.

Blaming iPhone users is like blaming car owners in the States, when the automotive and fossil fuel industries systematically dismantled mass transit nationwide.

chunkystyles ,

You think you’re so clever. You aren’t.

atro_city ,

I don't think I'm clever, I think I'm right.

Most Americans consume without a second thought. It's not a surprise they are the biggest polluters, consumers, and wasters on the planet.

chunkystyles ,

Yeah, no systemic issues at play here. Just the majority of Americans being individually shitty for purely personal reasons.

atro_city ,

Yes, blame everything on the system. Americans are just drones guided by the system by a deluge of ads, indoctrination by the media, school, and government. Taught to consume from the day they exit the womb, every American mindless follows the lifescript incapable of individual thought. A nation of puppets blabbering about freedom, being #1, and the American dream.

Sure, if that's what you want to believe.

boatsnhos931 ,

Where are you from so I can make fun of your people?

atro_city ,

Planet earth.

boatsnhos931 ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/60a9b25a-a2d8-4f7f-ab8c-4f2bb5a9c9e2.jpeg

SpaceNoodle ,

Terrible, but unsurprising.

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