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doodledup ,

There is a ton of arguments against supporting these shitty corps milking their customers. However, there is no argument for piracy.

Bbbbbbbbbbb ,

There are tons of arguments for piracy, the simplest ones being region locks, deplatformed episodes, and censorships.

doodledup ,

These are all arguments against the corresponding service. I don’t hear an argument for piracy.

cobysev ,

When those services are the only place with a license to provide the content you want, and your choice is to either suck it up and deal with their enshittification, or pirate the media you want… guess which option is the preferred choice?

nothing ,

Don’t forget about media you already bought being limited, deauthenticated, or removed completely.

doodledup ,

By 10 year old blue-ray collection is doing just fine.

SoftScotch ,
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Perhaps not a popular approach, but I will simply watch less or not at all (mainly due to ads). There are other ways to entertain yourself. Throw away your TV!

doodledup ,

They are not the only place. There are thousands of ways to legally obtain the content you want to enjoy. Blue-ray is one of countless others.

Not paying anything is worse in any case. The content and services will get even worse over time if more people start pirating stuff. The only way to change that is to vote with your wallet. Not paying does not entitle you to have an opinion and complain.

Zorque ,

Not everything is on physical media.

Not paying does not entitle you to have an opinion and complain.

No, free will entitles that.

Zorque ,

Sometimes we don’t hear something, not because it doesn’t exist… but because we choose to deny its existence.

Just because you don’t believe its there doesn’t mean it isn’t.

doodledup ,

It’s not about belief. It’s just pure logic in argumentation. There is just no conclusion here.

It’s like robbing a store because you didn’t like its shelf layout.

All of the arguments I read here are justifications. Nobody is actually trying to make a point here. They just want to enjoy free content.

Zorque ,

When you rob a store, the store loses something.

When you pirate a movie… no one loses anything. It’s also hard to steal from a store when they don’t stock the product in the first place. Your logic is flawed.

BigDaddySlim ,
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Netflix produced a movie called Hush. They made it and it was only distributed on Netflix. They removed it a while back, now the only way to watch it is to pirate it.

Alexstarfire ,

These are all arguments against the corresponding service. I don’t hear an argument for piracy.

PunnyName ,

Plenty of arguments for piracy.

doodledup ,

Enlighten me! Try not to mention how shitty the other options are and how much you hate the big corps. Because that’s irrelevant for the answer.

Gsus4 ,

some people are just flat out broke and they harm nobody.

shalafi ,

Piracy is theft. Period.

The only remaining question is if one requires an argument to steal in this context. I am fine with this theft and require no justification to sleep well.

“Commander Lock : Dammit, Morpheus. Not everyone believes what you believe.

Morpheus : My beliefs do not require them to.”

NaibofTabr ,

Um… what exactly is being stolen?

Phil_in_here ,

The fruits of artistic labour.

Ask any artist if they’d rather their work not be enjoyed at all, or enjoyed for free.

Clent ,

The only industry whose profits need to be guaranteed by laws.

NaibofTabr ,

Typically it’s the fruits of distributing someone else’s artistic labor that are stolen not paid. The artists are under contract with the producers/distributors, so they get paid regardless (if we’re talking RIAA/MPAA/record labels/movie studios).

Making a copy of something isn’t the same as stealing it. Making a copy of something and trying to pass it off as your own work is fraud, but that’s outside the scope of digital piracy. “Theft” requires that the stolen item is no longer in the possession of the original owner.

Alexstarfire ,

Their sense of pride and accomplishment?

doodledup ,

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikA9KkiTH-c

dormedas ,

This isn’t so much an argument for piracy as it is an argument to not patronize Disney. Especially considering that Disney’s motion for arbitration is so far beyond baseless that it’s baffling they’d even attempt it.

AKA: No, Disney will not be able to force you to arbitrate a dispute just because you once (or still do) subscribed to Disney+. Their motion will be denied, and pirating their content will not - in any way - afford you legal protections in the future.

minibyte ,

pirating their content will not - in any way - afford you legal protections in the future

Premium subscription - 13.99 a month. 13.99 a month invested getting 12.4% apr a year, reinvested will net you $40k in 30 years. I’m sure you could afford some legal protections with that.

ChicoSuave ,

WHERE CAN I GET THAT APR

JackbyDev ,

RIGHT!? JESUS CHRIST.

bamboo ,

A one time investment of $13.99 at 100% APR will be $207,620.61 in 10 years.

JackbyDev ,

Their motion will be denied, and pirating their content will not - in any way - afford you legal protections in the future.

We don’t know that yet. I want that to be true. I hope it’s true. But it isn’t true yet.

TheFrogThatFlies ,

Would the following argument hold: if the forced arbitration clause didn’t end after the trial period, then whatever access was granted to you during said trial will also not end, so you are allowed to pirate the previously granted content?

kibiz0r ,

No.

badbytes ,

And the best argument to never subscribe to D+

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