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seatwiggy ,

PNINU? That acronym will never fly

bubstance OP ,
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Perhaps just PNU?

seatwiggy ,

Of course. I forgot to leave out the short words

PaX ,
@PaX@hexbear.net avatar

sicko-mega Plan 9 posting

Steamymoomilk ,

Thats super freaking cool!!! I didnt know what plan 9 was until i read the comments and then went to wikipedia and mannn its super epic. Like in 2015 theres videos of a guy porting plan 9 on a raspberry pi!!

bubstance OP ,
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I have an RPi4 and a 0W that run 9front as diskless terminals thanks to that effort. It works really well!

Richard Miller is one of the OGs; he did the first port of UNIX, and if you look into Plan 9 more you’ll see exactly how much of a connection to history it really is.

billgamesh ,

rio’s color scheme may be modified by editing the .c configuration files and re-compiling:

Note: Someone will mock you for doing this.

What’s wrong with the pretty gray background?

bubstance OP ,
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Nothing at all.

It’s purely for my own needs — what worked for Rob Pike’s eyes in the '90s doesn’t really work for mine when it comes to actually using it every day, so I figured I’d have fun with it while I was changing the colors for the various programs.

gwilikers ,

Ah, I didn’t know Pike or Thompson were involved with Plan 9 . Does anyome here know why they used the Ed Wood movie for the name?

bubstance OP ,
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I think it really is as simple as our dorks from the Labs liking Ed Wood.

Same reason the mascot is named Glenda.

HovringSquidworld97A ,

Wild to see a Plan9 distro. What do you use it for? Hobby projects, distro surfing, etc?

bubstance OP , (edited )
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I use it for all of my day-to-day computing tasks. Writing, email, browsing, programming, drawing, games… the works.

Anything I can’t do directly in 9 is covered by a combination of http://man.9front.org/1/ssh, http://man.9front.org/1/vt, and https://man.9front.org/1/vnc — with just a touch of http://man.9front.org/1/vmx if I’m feeling dangerous.

Presi300 ,
@Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

What is Plan9? Is is an OS… or a kernel… or a set of utilities? I’ve been sorta interested in it in the past, but have no idea where to start.

bubstance OP ,
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Plan 9 is a research operating system developed by Bell Labs as a successor to UNIX.

I would suggest starting somewhere like here to get an idea of what it’s about, as well as checking out this video from one of 9front’s core contributors.

Sarcasmo220 ,

What is the date and faces thing measuring? lol

bubstance OP ,
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s an email indicator. See https://man.9front.org/1/faces for details.

zcd ,

This is the sexiest plan 9 shot I’ve seen, insanely cool OS

velox_vulnus ,

What display protocol does it use by default?

bubstance OP , (edited )
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It uses /dev/draw.

See http://man.9front.org/3/draw and http://man.9front.org/4/rio for details.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

The wallpaper is awesome. And everything else looks quite unique, pretty and usable

bubstance OP , (edited )
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

For those interested in learning more about Plan 9 and trying it out in a public environment: SDF Public Access UNIX System is hosting their seasonal Plan 9 Boot Camp starting June 20th. Feel free to drop into com and say hello!

pastermil ,

You’re running Plan9 on real hardware???

How’s it faring?

bubstance OP ,
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

But of course! Real hardware or bust.

This particular machine has been my daily driver for months now, so I would say it is faring quite well.

zcd ,

Do you browse on this?

bubstance OP ,
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Indeed.

9front comes with two browsers out of the box: https://man.9front.org/1/abaco and https://plan9.stanleylieber.com/mothra. There is also a port of NetSurf as well as both gopher and gemini browsers.

aida ,

something you can’t do or any inconvenience on this system?

bubstance OP , (edited )
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Oh sure, lots of things are “inconvenient” on Plan 9.

Of note for most would-be users: if you rely on a modern web browser like Firefox/Chrome, forget about it. Never going to happen.

It’s important to remember that Plan 9 is fundamentally a research operating system; it’s not really a “typical” environment by any stretch, and that stems largely from it being entirely network-based and distributed. A single Plan 9 system in isolation can only be so interesting. Using it on a laptop like this can be an entirely different set of problems.

If you’d like some examples of things you may face:

  • booting can be slow
  • can be intimidating to set up for some of the more important features – https://man.9front.org/4/factotum and https://man.9front.org/1/secstore, new users and directories under /, etc.
  • cwfs is slow
  • hjfs is really slow
  • no multi-monitor support
  • only recently did we get a filesystem that specifically aims to be crash-safe
  • poor documentation, though it’s been getting better
  • reading research papers is basically a requirement for understanding the system
  • security is not a priority

For me, though? I genuinely don’t need much more than what’s available in the base system.

pastermil ,

Nice! I think I’m gonna follow that footstep.

pastermil ,

Got all the device driver support?

bubstance OP ,
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

On this machine I have everything except for Bluetooth and the fingerprint reader, neither of which I ever use anyway.

barsquid ,

Is this for business or personal? Both? Other? I’m wondering about differences in daily interactions when running Plan 9.

bubstance OP ,
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

All? I just use it like any other computer, honestly.

Are there any specific questions you have? I can try my best to explain.

Waffelson ,

What’s the most modern web browser you can run?

bubstance OP ,
@bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That would be the port of NetSurf.

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