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darcy ,
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RSS!!!

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Imagine posting a hurricane coming your way and the message is:

  • blocked because Musk called it woke propaganda
  • hit the API ceiling and causes a server error
  • blocked since people need to an account and follow Elon first
  • new Twitter update breaks services… For the twelfth time.
  • filtered because the user has seen to many tweets in the past few hours
  • didn’t have Twitter Blue/Red/Ultron so the message was supressed
cley_faye ,

Eh; I can trigger 429 errors that log me out of the service by just keeping the page open. I’m not sure of anyone is supposed to keep using the service for free in any official capacity.

SpeedLimit55 ,

Makes sense, a bunch of stuff on twitter is broken. We’ve had embedded twitter feeds (most recent 2 or 3 posts) on our work websites for years and they broke that functionality in June. I guess they didn’t want the extra traffic from website embeds?

9488fcea02a9 ,

Toyko Drift

athos77 ,

It sounded weird that they'd have reached the 1500 monthly tweet limit so quickly, but apparently there's also a limit of 50 tweets per 24-hour period. In one prefecture that they use as an example, there are 45 cities, towns and villages, and each one needs it's own specific warning. So if a big storm comes through, they'd use up all their daily tweets on the first warning, and there'd be no room for updates. So that's what the issue was.

almightyGreek ,

Tokyo drifts?

poudlardo ,
@poudlardo@jlai.lu avatar

Did they choose an alternative?

higgsone ,
@higgsone@lemmy.world avatar

Mastodon

stopthatgirl7 OP ,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

No, they haven’t. NERV is running its own Mastodon server, but that’s not run by any government agency and is a private company.

The different prefectures are still weighing options.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

If I were in charge of disaster warnings, a distributed, redundant system like the Fediverse would seem to be the perfect option for a warning system.

But what do I know…

mintiefresh ,

Ah I see. I hope they consider Mastodon or something similar.

tiredofsametab ,

Yeah, I wish the government would do something. Preferably something that exists today, but I trust they'd want to make their own shitty app. At least then it'd be in one place, I suppose. Emergency alerts on phones are a thing for many people, but not everything is that level of emergency.

yui ,

NERV? Like the agency from Evangelion? I’m not too familiar with any other abbreviation than that haha.

stopthatgirl7 OP ,
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queerly_hot ,
@queerly_hot@kbin.social avatar

They are now relying more on other communication methods such as email, the Line messaging app, their official website, and the L-Alert system, which shares information to media outlets who broadcast it to citizens.

johannes ,

I never understood why official goverment body’s do that anyway. Maintaining your own infra means you have full control. This should be mandatory for any government body. Not beeing dependant on big tech who make up silly rules as they please.

Kbobabob ,

Well, all you have to do is convince the public to pay for it. Easy, peasy…

johannes ,

Given the amount of tax money thats beeing wasted already, its only a small drop in the ocean.

meldroc ,

Agreed - any competent municipal IT dept. can set up an instance without breaking a sweat - set up a VM, install your OS of choice, install Lemmy & its stack, set up the DB, register the domain, find some interns to moderate & do scut work. Not completely trivial, but within modest means.

infectoid ,
@infectoid@lemmy.world avatar

I think most govt bodies do both.

They run and report on their own infrastructure and also report wherever else the masses are.

Really makes sense for govts to start running their own mastodon instances I reckon.

johannes ,

i read an article a few weeks ago that said that our (the Netherlands) government is working on its own Mastodon instance, i hope they actually pull through with that :)

infectoid ,
@infectoid@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah mastodon has come a long way. I hope your govt manages to pull it off just to prove it can be done.

Then I think many others will follow.

It really does make a lot of sense for govts. They have their instance and can then host accounts for all their departments. People from all over the Fediverse can then sub to them for updates.

auxim ,

They have one now at social.overheid.nl which they seem to test at the moment. They have a few accounts such as Belastingdienst, KNMI, Rijkswaterstaat, MinBZK so I hope they’ll continue after the experiment phase is over.

johannes ,

Yeah i hope so too!

8uurg ,

It is already up and running, you can see posts from various government agencies at social.overheid.nl/public/local

elvith ,

The German government also has its own instance: social.bund.de/public/local

Also here’s the instance of the European Union: social.network.europa.eu/public/local

And the European Union even has a Peertube instance: tube.network.europa.eu/videos/local?c=true&s=…

Darkassassin07 ,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

How often do you browse government sites?

It’s easier to bring the information to the people than it is to bring the people to the information. Social Media is (has previously been…) perfect for that.

johannes ,

Fair point :)

stopthatgirl7 OP ,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

Thing is, it made sense until Twitter got sold to a capricious billionaire. Twitter was very stable and their rules didn’t change much before then. The APIs made them an easy way to send out a lot of info in a popular, easily to access way. It worked well as a system for both government agencies and citizens, until Elon decided to stick his dick in it.

johannes ,

But thats exactly the problem :) some ego steps in and boom! As a foreign government you simply cant trust that a privatly owned company has your best interest at heart, and they shouldn’t.

meldroc ,

Yep. The BBC & NPR found that out. Notice that the BBC stood up their own Mastodon instance - they know the value of owning one’s house instead of renting.

masterairmagic ,

It never made sense. Government should not have favourites in social media. Everything government does should be on an open standard.

shirahara ,

Japanese local governments, let alone the central one, still have almost zero knowledge about the value of maintaining infrastructure which they should have full control. Virtually even discourses about it do not exist yet. Huge difference between the European governments.

stopthatgirl7 OP ,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

Right? They’re still using floppy disks and fax machines.

shirahara ,

Fax machines are one of the main ways of communications there. I guess floppy disks are indeed partly used at municipal offices yet.

stopthatgirl7 OP ,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

Oh, very much so. There was a big news story about two years ago where a police officer lost a floppy disk that had a bunch of people’s personal information on it.

johannes ,

The beauty of that is that knowledge can be transferred :) But i suppose they have to be willing first.

shirahara ,

Unless the governments would change radically how they see FOSS from a way of reducing money cost…

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