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mctoasterson ,

Private Trackers are the way forward.

sailingbythelee ,

I thought I read that private trackers are hard to sign up to. Or that you have to prove yourself somehow and people get stressed about maintaining their ratio. Is that true? If so, that doesn’t sound fun.

db2 ,

All this does is make me more interested in “pirating” their infinitely copyable material. More to the point it’s making my interest in financially supporting them drop to zero if not lower.

cm0002 ,

With Usenet, Plex* (Streaming Server), Radarr (automated movie downloading) and Sonarr (automated TV downloading and management) it’s never been easier!

*Plex is currently on a slow path of enshittification and the only other good alternative, Jellyfin, still has some ways to go before it can pass “The Spouse Test”. I myself have only had Jellyfin in testing and not yet replaced Plex with it. But that day is coming. Jellyfin is well under active development and I have no doubt it will get to feature and stability parity with Plex

Darkassassin07 ,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

You can always use the older, well established, actively developed, and stable project that Jellyfin is built from; Emby. (Jellyfin is literally Embys code from 10+ years ago)

cm0002 ,

Yea no. FUCK Emby and their bullshit, Emby is the next Plex and not in a good way. I was there 10 years ago when Jellyfin split off, so AFAIC there are only 2 viable streaming software, Plex and Jellyfin. Emby is dead to me.

Darkassassin07 ,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m curious to know why you think/feel that way.

I found/started using personal streaming solutions around 8 years ago; so post-Emby/MediaBrowser split into Jellyfin.

While I started with Plex, I very quickly came to despise their always online/centralized authentication system and moved to Emby as the only alternative I’d seen/heard of at the time. From there I learned of Jellyfin and (at least some of) it’s origins; though I’ve had 0 reason/need/desire to actually install Jellyfin as Emby works fantastically.

I’ve been really quite happy with Emby; particularly with their stance of not tracking/collecting userdata and maintaining Emby as a private company focused on their customers instead of investors/partners. I understand some people don’t like the Premiere licensing model they use; but I think it’s a good way for the developers to ensure stable income for their work; and TBH, especially with the lifetime purchase option, I think it’s undervalued. Unfortunately that model is not compatible with opensource (as users just fork it to remove the paywall), which is why Jellyfin exists from what I understand.

cm0002 , (edited )

This is going to go back quite a ways, and much of my knowledge is old at this point so some details might be off.

~15 years ago Plex as we know it started out as an OSX fork of the 0G Xbox homebrew software XBMC (Later renamed Kodi (For those who don’t know, XBMC was XBox Media Center and would turn the 0g Xbox into the cheapest Home Theater PC you could get at the time, man those were the days lol))

Plex was only briefly open source and then was quickly closed when they incorporated a year or so after they had something functional. They never made any promises about not charging or being open source or anything, so that’s why I’m generally fine with Plex

Sometime around 2012ish Emby came along as THE open source alternative to Plex and things were good. MOST of it was supposed to stay open source as was promised. From the beginning they kept build scripts n such closed source, probably should have caught on them, but heh ya know hindsight and all that.

Then around 2014/5 they took it all closed source, relicensed it and introduced their paywall including locking away already existing features. This is what pissed me and many others off and this is when and why Jellyfin split off promising to be truly fully open source forever. (There was a ton of drama about it at the time, but it looks like Embys Q&A thing a bit back doesn’t even bother to mention it, imagine that lol)

I don’t have a problem with subscriptions on open source software myself, but the way they went about it…yea. fuck em

SirDerpy ,

Where’s Jellyfin failing the spouse test? My spouse preferred it to Plex because she could turn off all the crap on the home screen.

cm0002 ,

Just general glitchiness, odd UI design choices etc. Def needs more polish

When I say Spouse Test I mean from the context of a spouse who just “doesn’t do computers”, if your spouse is technically inclined at all, say as a PC gamer or something and has dealt with sometimes-kinda-annoying software and has some patience, then they’ll probably be fine with it

SirDerpy ,

This makes sense. I had to poke around the UI to figure it out. And, the client occasionally needs rebooted or the cache cleared. I can see how some users would have trouble.

I’d suggest that teaching those users is probably easier than setting up Plex today and then setting up Jellyfin as an emergency service when Plex inevitably begins ad injection or introduces a paywall for local streaming.

linearchaos , (edited )
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

After looking at this list I’d like to pre-qualify what I’m about to say: I have jellyfin and like it, I use jellyfin regularly. I have it pointed to the same catalog as Plex and if Plex ever gets thoroughly enshitified I will leave it for jellyfin

The biggest things I’ve seen (in decreasing order of pain):

transcoding can fail on media that Plex has no problems with

Jellyfin is significantly worse at detecting names and properly assigning metadata. Jellyfin does not have the same ease of fixing that when it happens that Plex has.

I’m not going to go through all the work to reverse proxy it. Nor do I trust opening it to the internet. So for her to access it outside the house she’s going to be using tailscale. Kind of just extra steps for the sake of extra steps.

Finamp is a poor replacement for Plexamp, Don’t get me wrong I love the fan project but it’s not anywhere near as good, and it becomes quite painful to use on large audio catalogs.

The Roku client doesn’t have any method to mark things as watched or unwatched or modified playlisted items.

I dislike the sections being static one row high and then having to rotate left and right through multiple things when they could just wrap.

I am super amazed that the project runs as well as it does. It’s a monumental piece of open source work, but there’s a lot of polish problems and I’m not qualified to help them fix them.

Edit: oh and I really really miss these skip intro Skip credits option that Plex has.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Jellyfin pased my spouse test for local network.

I put her on tailscale for remote access but she’s not a big fan of that.

AnarchoSnowPlow ,

Is it not safe to expose externally with ssl yet?

OutlierBlue ,

Ah yes, I’m sure this crackdown will have the result of ending piracy forever.

moepoi ,
@moepoi@forum.moe.onl avatar

It’s time for me to self host a jellyfin server.

einlander ,

All this means to me is someone is going to make a peer to peer darkweb version of these sites sooner rather than later.

emax_gomax ,

Nevermind the decades of these sites compensating for studios just not giving a sh*t about making their content accessible to the rest of the world.

xylogx ,

Fmovie is a new one I never heard of before. Good thing they mentioned it so I know to avoid it in the future.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

oh is it that time of year again? feels like they just published the 2023 version!

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