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grue ,

bunch of secure boot stuff (I have mixed feelings about this)

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Toribor ,
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Is… secure boot considered controversial?

My usual experience with it is having to manually enroll a key on my laptop before I can install Linux or having to disable it entirely. Is the concern here that maybe this is a precursor to a more closed ecosystem?

grue ,

I mean, there’s “secure boot” as a general concept, and then there’s “UEFI Secure Boot.”

The latter definitely had those concerns, especially around 2012 when it first became a thing and a lot of folks were concerned that Microsoft would try to use it to lock down devices to only run Windows. See also:

The level of concern seems like it’s died down a lot since then, not really so much because the Free Software community “won” but because Microsoft backed off a little bit and everybody kind of got used to it (and also because, at this point, we’ve got bigger fish to fry jailbreak, such as Android devices and such). But that frog is still in the pot, and the water hasn’t cooled off…

As for the former, which is what this discussion is about since we’re obviously not talking about Microsoft or Windows, my cynicism is mostly about how secure boot is a feature obviously aimed at industrial/commercial users. In other words, it represents yet more distraction away from and neglect of the core constituencies – schoolchildren and hobbyists – that the Raspberry Pi Foundation is supposed to be serving.

grue ,

Remember when the Pi Zero, with a full SoC capable of running Linux instead of just a microcontroller, was $5?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

anlumo ,

It was marketed as $7 (I think), but it was never sold below $15 as far as I could find.

Also, since that price was without any profit margin, merchants only sold them in expensive bundles most of the time (with a case, SD card, etc).

knightly ,
@knightly@pawb.social avatar

Oh hey, Raspberry Pi still exists.

Did they ever fire that cop?

Blue_Morpho ,

What is the advantage of a Pico 2 compared to the ESP32 variants?

anlumo ,

Better marketing. It’s also easier to get a build pipeline for ARM than Xtensa and RISC-V.

IllNess ,

I understand they want it to be a drop in replacement for the original Pico but I wish they upgraded the MicroUSB port to a USB-C port.

I guess third party for me again.

Grippler ,

MicroUSB is absolutely one of the worst connectors ever designed, perhaps only surpassed by the SCART connector.

MrScottyTay ,

What was wrong with SCART? only thing I can think of is its bulkiness.

Grippler ,

They broke all the time and you had to wiggle them often because of shoddy connectivity.

thehatfox ,
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I don’t remember much problem with the connectivity with SCART. I do remember wasting many hours dealing with cheaply made cables that didn’t even wire all the pins however.

Which come to think of it is now becoming an issue with USB-C cables. At least with SCART the connector could be easily opened for inspection, which became a habit of many an AV tech.

Damage ,

Never broke any. It was a pain to plug in blindly in the back of the TV tho.

TimeSquirrel ,
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only surpassed by the SCART connector.

I would rank SCART higher than the composite video RCA connector all of us had to settle for in the NTSC world. SCART was awesome in its day, being able to carry component video AND bidirectional equipment control signals. It was HDMI before HDMI.

Grippler ,

The functionality was great, it’s the physical durability that was complete shit.

thehatfox ,
@thehatfox@lemmy.world avatar

Keeping the same pin layout while upgrading to USB-C would have made more sense. USB-C is the future, seems odd to still be a Micro USB holdout in 2024.

The switch has got to happen at some point, and the Pico ecosystem is still young enough the change wouldn’t be too disruptive.

aodhsishaj ,

How long will it stay $5. Taking bets now.

solrize OP ,

It might just become unobtanium like the pi zero was til they jacked up the price and dropped the no wifi version.

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