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WhatsApp and Signal messages at risk of surveillance following EncroChat ruling, court hears | Computer Weekly

Police could lawfully use bulk surveillance techniques to access messages from encrypted communications platforms such as WhatsApp and Signal, following a ruling by the UK’s Investigatory Powers Tribunal (IPT), a court has heard.

Teknikal ,
@Teknikal@eviltoast.org avatar

Let’s be honest Google is Americas attempt to control the Internet completely, they appeared straight after they declared the echolen project ended. The odds on them being a real company straight after that must at least quadruple any bet.

I’ll be honest I use Google I think everyone does but I’ve always been aware their more FBI, CIA than an actual search engine.

I myself don’t have much to hide and I’ll probably keep using them for now, but if I was an American I’d avoid them like the plague.

Zak ,
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

The headline is a little misleading. The actual ruling is that police can obtain warrants to install surveillance malware on phones when they have evidence the owner is using it to communicate about crimes.

NarrativeBear ,

Could malware be installed without access to the physical phone? How would this be achieved. Is it with a backdoor from the phone manufacturer or infected somehow from the sim card service provider.

aodhsishaj ,

Likely as not, person charged with crime is in custody. Police force person to unlock phone, then police install malware and wait for comms to come in.

bionicjoey , (edited )

You’d have to be a real idiot to keep using the same phone after the police arrested you and forced you to unlock it, especially for doing crimes.

narc0tic_bird ,

This. Even I would be too paranoid to keep using a phone (or other device for that matter) that the police confiscated before.

Plopp ,

Depending on circumstances it can be done remotely in different ways AFAIK using things like IMSI Catchers, malicious and sometimes invisible SMS messages, and maybe spearfishing or other methods. Or a combination of things, leveraging different weaknesses of the phone in question.

AtHeartEngineer ,
@AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

This is much much harder though, and would risk exposing the vulnerabilities they are using, so they likely won’t use these methods unless it’s higher profile and involves some higher up govt entities. Your normal street crime cop shop won’t be able to do this.

hoshikarakitaridia ,
@hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

And because this could just enable government bodies to fuck around with spying, that’s why usually you have to get a warrant for this kinda stuff on the grounds of probable cause.

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