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Laser ,

50%?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

These are absolutely disastrous numbers. This is worse than I would expect from illegally sources parts.

Sweetpeaches69 ,

Better off buying from Temu at that failure rate.

thisbenzingring ,

Is it just the UE Oodle compression that is exposing the flaws or are non-gaming workloads affected?

CountVon ,
@CountVon@sh.itjust.works avatar

Anything that pushes the CPUs significantly can cause instability in affected parts. I think there are at least two separate issues Intel is facing:

  • Voltage irregularities causing instability. These could potentially be fixed by the microcode update Intel will be shipping in mid-August.
  • Oxidation of CPU vias. This issue cannot be fixed by any update, any affected part has corrosion inside the CPU die and only replacement would resolve the issue.

Intel’s messaging around this problem has been very slanted towards talking as little as possible about the oxidation issue. Their initial Intel community post was very carefully worded to make it sound like voltage irregularity was the root cause, but careful reading of their statement reveals that it could be interpreted as only saying that instability is a root cause. They buried the admission that there is an oxidation issue in a Reddit comment, of all things. All they’ve said about oxidation is that the issue was resolved at the chip fab some time in 2023, and they’ve claimed it only affected 13th gen parts. There’s no word on which parts number, date ranges, processor code ranges etc. are affected. It seems pretty clear that they wanted the press talking about the microcode update and not the chips that will have the be RMA’d.

Imgonnatrythis ,

As yet unreleased chips received under a contracted NDA do better than chips that you pay money for? Tell me more about it while I sip on my new energy drink provided by Jitters inc. Which is better than my old energy drink or the energy drink you are drinking. Jitters will be releasing this energy drink in a store near you soon btw!

lemmeout ,

I understand the cynicism. But if you’ve been following this topic, Intel really fucked with some huge customers (businesses) here. And AMD was already stealing their lunch with their previous gen processors.

doingthestuff ,

Ryzen changes their sockets less often too. I went from a 2600 to a 3700x to a 5800x with the same motherboard. Unless Intel really steps up their game I don’t see any reason to switch back.

Badeendje ,
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

Excellent point!

I have been rocking and since the first Aylin series, simply because I think Intel deserves and requires a competitor. The fact that the new (and last few) amd units are good value for money helps a lot!

Valmond ,

No, or very few, locks in too. Like overclock or have virtualization.

EtherWhack ,
@EtherWhack@lemmy.world avatar

Wasn’t that before they switched to LGA though?

elgordino ,

They’ve committed to support AM5 (the LGA socket launched 2022) through at least 2027.

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/amd-promises-am5-socket-life-support-through-to-2027-and-beyond/#

BlackLaZoR ,
@BlackLaZoR@kbin.run avatar

This is a solid policy. AFAIK even with ancient Asus B350 Board, you can use Ryzen 5800X3D - which is still a solid gaming CPU

givesomefucks ,

Yep.

I was debating it because I still had a 1700x, bit the bullet and went with the 7800x3d

In three years I probably still won’t need a cpu upgrade, but the last AM5 x3d will give me another 3-4 years into am6

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Wasn’t what? They still sell AM4 chips to this day.

kopasz7 ,

AMD for platform, Intel for NIC (and optane SSD)

Best combo IMO.

deltapi ,

I used to think so too, but I’ve got an Intel box where I have to turn hardware offload off in order to not have networking ‘crashes’ (complete with kernel dump data) that take out my networking for 5-15sec. Chip is i218-LM r05.

I’ve never had an issue with my i210 and x550 chips, but this 218 is super frustrating.

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

And so, the tables turn once again in the three and half decade AMD/Intel war. This is going to go on until I die, isn't it?

NABDad ,

Hopefully.

BlackLaZoR ,
@BlackLaZoR@kbin.run avatar

Ough! Thats future sales of Intel CPUs going down the drain.

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