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kinkles ,
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Lemmy hates Meta but honestly the Quest 3 is a fantastic headset. I use mine semi-regularly for wireless Steam VR.

dubyakay ,

Too bad that it will turn into a brick once meta decides to axe their VR department.

chemical_cutthroat ,
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u/chemical_cutthroat Reportedly Happy With How Much Money Meta’s VR Division Burns

einlander ,

Well, if I didn’t have to make a face book log in to use one. If not for that I would consider one to play in steam. Even if I had to have it tethered.

tias ,

I think they don’t require that anymore. It’s a “Meta login” which can be separate from Facebook. At least for Quest devices.

TragicNotCute ,
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Call it what you want, but this requirement prevents me from buying their products too. I use no Meta services. Don’t wanna start.

MudMan ,

Welcome to the classic social media 100m dash. Become a popular dunk target on socials > get people to call such and such choice as a dealbreaker > stop doing such and such > it is now "not enough", or "they'll enshittify it later" or "a slippery slope".

Which fine, whatever. I'm not saying Meta are "good guys" (no corporation is, honestly). What I will say is a) that is not a particularly productive or functional way to engage with pretty much anything, especially when there is no comparable alternative to a product, and b) this is a remarkable incentive to NOT acknowledge criticism. I mean, if I'm Meta and I see this often, what is the incentive to not just force everybody to EULA away as much as possible? People will give me crap for it regardless, so I may as well get to sell some sweet, sweet data.

FWIW, I'm skeptical of the ability of Meta to turn around the VR market as a whole, I don't like many of their privacy and content moderation practices and I no longer use Facebook, Instagram or Threads. But hey, I do have a Whatsapp account because it's pretty much mandatory to exist in society, and I do have a Quest headset, which I agree is the best price to performance you can buy and works flawlessly with PC VR both wired and wirelessly.

mipadaitu ,

I don’t need to log into my computer monitor, why should I log into my VR goggles?

Don’t give them thanks for only half vacuuming your personal privacy, keep bitching until they do it right.

MudMan ,

I mean, in this case because it's a standalone device, so... for the same reason you log in to your PlayStation. Also, you already had to log in to it when this was a Oculus thing, the "I don't want a Facebook login" complaint only became a talking point after they transitioned from the Oculus login over to the Facebook login, so the intellectual honesty in moving the goalposts based on this argument seems dubious.

In any case, I could see you getting uppity about logging in to use it wired. Maybe. There are a ton of hardware settings and configuration that are handled within the Quest's software directly, so I bet that would be way less trivial to deploy than people imagine. There is certainly no way I can envision where this thing would be usable wirelessly without a software login. You need to run an app to link to your PC, be it the Oculus or the Steam Link app. For security reasons alone you don't want a logless device that streams what's on your desktop monitor at will.

awesomesauce309 ,

Not separated enough for me. I know all the big companies are bad, but I won’t touch google/fb hardware.

NegativeInf ,

The same jerks with a new name get the all your data. Bootlick harder.

Beacon ,

That wouldn't be better for the company. They probably don't make money on selling the hardware.

bobs_monkey ,

Yeah, that’s the entire deal of it. And why it’s lame.

ShaggySnacks ,

90% of technology companies quit before making a hit VR product. We should encourage Meta to spend more.

bobs_monkey ,

Let’s hope Meta sinks every last dime of their profit into “the next big thing” that is their VR division

Iheartcheese ,
@Iheartcheese@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe you shouldn’t have made it so shit

KoboldCoterie ,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

Cutting spending by 20% while not reducing output will definitely accomplish that, too!

Reverendender ,

Maybe you shouldn’t have made it so shit

ByteOnBikes ,

Listen pal - Do you know how hard it is to make legs for a wii-like avatar?! We need another 8 billion.

SlopppyEngineer ,

The tech in general just isn’t good enough to do that much more. It’s like having a coal powered steam engine and then saying you’ll build a formula 1 car with it. They thought that with throwing enough money at the wall, a few breakthroughs in tech would fall out, but it doesn’t work like that. If you’re very lucky you hit one breakthrough, but they needed a few.

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