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wolf ,

Seems SAP’s investment in good arguments pays off.

OTOH Europe and Germany have obvious problems in the cloud sector: They cannot do it on their own and thus are depending on either the USA or other countries who have the know-how.

Not a situation you want to find yourself in, when IT is the backbone which keeps everything running.

Luckily German government’s investment in paper, floppy drives and fax machines makes it secure against attacks towards IT infrastructure… ;-)

far_university1990 ,

𝕯𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖊 𝕶𝖔𝖒𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖘𝖊𝖐𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖎𝖘𝖙 𝖓𝖚𝖓 𝕰𝖎𝖌𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖚𝖒 𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝕭𝖚𝖓𝖉𝖊𝖘𝖗𝖊𝖕𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖎𝖐 𝕯𝖊𝖚𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖉

rottingleaf ,

Isn’t it Kommentärsektion? Not a German, so just asking

far_university1990 ,

Kommentar ist die Schreibweise aus dem Duden, es ist kein ä enthalten. Auch in Verbindung mit Sektion wird dort kein ä hinzugefügt.

Mir ist generell kein Wort bekannt, bei dem sich ein a zu ä, o zu ö oder u zu ü ändert, wenn es mit einem anderen Wort kombiniert wird.

unexposedhazard ,

If you didnt understand whatever this guy is yappin, the answer is no. The original spelling is correct.

far_university1990 ,

Es gibt übersetzer

rottingleaf ,

I understood the general meaning, and for the rest we have Google translate =)

rottingleaf ,

Yep, I was thinking that maybe plural may have ä

far_university1990 ,

Das kommt tatsächlich vor. Zum Beispiel Horn wird zu Hörner. Kommentar wird aber zu Kommentare und Kommentarsektion wird zu Kommentarsektionen.

barsoap , (edited )

Mir ist generell kein Wort bekannt, bei dem sich ein a zu ä, o zu ö oder u zu ü ändert, wenn es mit einem anderen Wort kombiniert wird.

Nach Gold graben -> Goldgräber sein.

Wobei hast schon recht der Umlaut kommt nicht durch die Zusammensetzung zustande sondern durch die Nominalisierung von “graben”. Ansonsten kommen Umlaute noch bei der Steigerung von Adjektiven vor (alt, älter), sowie Pluralbildungen (Gans, Gänse) und beim Präsens vieler starker Verben und auch der Konjunktiv ist mit Umlauten durchsetzt und das war’s dann glaub ich auch schon.

homesweethomeMrL ,

This bespells doom

MonkderDritte ,

Ah, Olaf Scholz, already an infamous corp slut. Was refused.

barsquid ,

The idea was rejected? Sane. Lovely to see.

feinstruktur ,
@feinstruktur@lemmy.ml avatar

Source?

Bakkoda ,

"Failed idocs and a deleted HUs have caused the German government to cease all function. "

riodoro1 ,

Aaaand that will cost the taxpayers an undisclosed amount of money

BestBouclettes ,

Germany and ping ponging between proprietary and free software every 2 years, name a better duo

NafiTheBear ,
@NafiTheBear@pawb.social avatar

It is like… Each time we showed how well you can live with open source, Microsoft comes around with an even bigger coffin of lobby money.

BestBouclettes ,

The worst thing in that is the amount of money and human time it must take just to migrate everything. People only looking at the bottom line is the bane of IT…

rottingleaf ,

I don’t get it, what you are describing is bad for the bottom line too. If we don’t mean that of Scholz’s personal finances, of course.

BestBouclettes ,

What I mean is that these kinds of people usually look at the financial cost per year for a given solution that’s already in place and always look for something cheaper (usually only on paper).

Usually they look at the cost of a licence without giving a single thought about, let’s say, the processing power that’ll be needed for the new thing, the expertise to set it up and run it, and all the migration work that will be needed to make the switch.

Also, when these things happen, most of the time you have to fire/hire/train people to adapt, which means you lose some of your internal knowledge and experience. That’s something that can’t be really quantified and can really hurt an IT system.

In the end, with all the cumulative costs, it’s often far more expensive to switch solutions, and not financially speaking, but that doesn’t necessarily appear on the bottom line they will see from their desks.

rottingleaf ,

What you are describing would mean they are very stupid in the exact thing which is supposed to be their strong side.

It’s just corruption. Politicians have long learned that to appear stupid is advantageous - plebes don’t get alarmed when they see something wrong, but can explain it by stupidity, and they also don’t insist on rolling it back.

These people are vermin. The best thing Germans can do for their future is to interrogate meticulously, investigate and jail for life all of the German politicians who’ve touched power in the last 20 years, with death sentences postponed by 20 years, and maybe also check their family members. The second best thing would be a good French 60s’ style revolution, which would likely lead to the same anyway, because what’s secret would no longer be that.

Similar for many other European countries.

No, I’m not fascist, actually kinda anarchist (more ancap than ancom, but tolerant to the latter).

ryathal ,

It’s not just lobbying. The expertise to build and certify what Microsoft did for government cloud is expensive and rare. Open source still needs a third party to provide that level of support, because the documentation is more important than the technical capabilities.

MonkderDritte ,

Hire any competent Linux sys tech?

sunzu ,

Tech corpo shills hate the idea of government going open source. Think of all that investment into your competition that is known to be the better approach.

rottingleaf ,

It’s possible and not so hard, just too boring for people to do automatically (EDIT: I meant - as part of usual work), and also bureaucrats have a very different MO, one that you need a commercial company infected by that culture for.

Also governments steal money. It’s obvious they do. Both in legal ways, when some secretary has salary disproportional to the work they are doing and the need for it at all, and in illegal ones (just for the fun of it).

It’s about power and dealing with people of their culture.

The state is interested in less dependence from big corps, but its officials are interested in more dependence, because that means huge contracts with little transparency and lots of time to hide things that don’t look nice.

mryessir ,

Thing is the authorities are told to use their own IT hoster. This dumbsack just - again - took money from extern.

It was also, internally, conducted that a third party governing an open-source stack ia cheaper then redmond.

NafiTheBear ,
@NafiTheBear@pawb.social avatar

This is a valid mention and I agree, but I also have to say that there are companies like the nextcloud corp itself who do offer that level of expertise and are German based and would use the money to improve nextcloud, which is open source, whereas we don’t know how much of the money that Microsoft takes goes into the open source project.

raspberriesareyummy ,

Microsoft is a bunch of corporate fascist cunts just like the rest of the silicon valley and those fuckers should all die out. Sadly they won’t. Thank you fucking traitor scum Scholz for showing your true shitface once more. Greetings from CumEx

General_Effort ,

coffin

Hehe. I think you mean suitcase but this works, too.

NafiTheBear ,
@NafiTheBear@pawb.social avatar

It was intentional play of words. :p

n3cr0 ,

Sovereignity by ditching open source software for a proprietary solution made by a US company? How depraved is our dear Bundeskanzler?! The source code of each software update will be made available to the German service provider. Does Scholz really expect someone checking it thoroughly, each time?

DarkThoughts ,

Sovereignity by ditching open source software for a proprietary solution made by a US company?

SAP is German.

Does Scholz really expect someone checking it thoroughly, each time?

Let's not pretend that people do this with open source software either. Especially obfuscated mechanisms might not even be seen by the few people who do check it.

tabular , (edited )
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

I’m aware you can intentionally try to make source code unreadable and making open source software effectively proprietary but I do not know of any examples of people doing that. Do you?

rottingleaf ,

They meant backdoors hidden in plain sight, so making it readable, but (EDIT: seemingly) innocent. People do that.

raef ,

Probably referring to Microsoft. That’s the one of the two with all the cloud experience

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

People notice the oddest things, look at the xz malware incident. All because some guy figured a decompression subroutine in his software was taking a bit longer than expected.

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