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Snapz ,

Choke on shit, elon - You little emerald toting fuck.

Prethoryn ,
@Prethoryn@lemmy.world avatar

My buddy at work just bought one and I am not impressed or at least it doesn’t feel the same as the first time I sat in one about 5 years ago.

It looks cheap on the inside I noticed paneling off. The only thing I truly love about it is how quiet it is when he is driving. It is insanely peaceful and the car does look clean just cheap. It’s unfortunate because they are good looking cars in the outside but damn they just aren’t impressive when you are in one.

I wouldn’t tell him that he loves it and if he loves it then he loves it.

PeroBasta ,

Subjective i know: on the outside it’s just the model S that can compete to the same design level you get with that kind of money.

BMW at the same price range are better designed for example

Audi? Same

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

giving elon another bonus should fix it

Liz ,

I’m still absolutely flabbergasted they gave him that bonus. Like, legitimately, what success has the company had recently that was worth it?

33550336 ,
@33550336@lemmy.world avatar

Good, tesla looks like a shit.

Famko ,

Elon Musk Will Reinstate Neo-Nazi on Twitter lamag.com/…/elon-musk-will-reinstate-neo-nazi-on-…

Elon Musk expresses support for antisemitic post on X, calling it “the actual truth” cbsnews.com/…/elon-musk-antisemitic-comments-x-po…

Can’t send links to actual tweets as the site is terrible now and won’t let me enter it without an account. The second link is notable for promoting anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, like the Great Replacement.

flop_leash_973 ,

Tesla will probably be a case study one day in how to get the lead in a market that is hard to break into and somehow squander it.

LustyArgonianMana ,
@LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world avatar

Are we all pretending that the investment in Tesla was organic and for the company?

You guys have seen the man with creepy world leaders. Multiple countries investing in and pumping Tesla stock to get favors from Elon is PRETTY BLATANTLY what’s going on.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

the problem is tesla basically got in early and did literally nothing to actually innovate and improve

stoly ,

They did that prior to Musk getting involved.

cmrn ,

That’s crazy they had above 50%, though I guess they were the only EV-only company in North America (I believe?).

Horsey ,
@Horsey@lemmy.world avatar

The lack of CarPlay/Android Auto makes Tesla a non-starter

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I honestly don’t care about that. For me, it’s price, both for purchase and if I ever need to replace the battery pack.

Used Bolts and Leafs are right in the price range I’m looking at, and I only want it for a commuter, so I don’t need a ton of range or a vast charging network. I imagine a lot of other consumers feel similarly.

shasta ,

Imagine a $5-10k commuter vehicle with little/no fuel cost. You could have another vehicle for longer range trips if you need to.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup. I’m considering getting an ebike, but that’s not going to be pleasant in the winter. I honestly don’t need much, I just need to get to work and back, and maybe grab a few groceries on the way.

finley ,

i saw a Hyundai Ioniq6 this morning was like, damn! They have great performance, great reviews, and great warranties. they’re nice on the inside, too.

can’t remember ever thinking that about a Tesla

EnderWiggin ,

I saw a KIA the other day that I was surprised looked as slick as it did. Decided to look into it and saw a lot of positive reviews from owners. Was refreshing to see, but definitely surprising. The market is definitely changing and evolving. Tesla isn’t the only game in town.

finley ,

exactly. next to every other car company, Tesla looks like it’s been standing still for years.

and that’s not even considering the toxic association Musk brings…

suction ,

A couple of years ago KIA hired new designers and changed their logo, they basically turned from being the butt of a joke to one of the hottest car makers around.

Wiz ,

I weirdly love their logo.

Pulptastic ,

KN

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

I didn’t know Nine Inch Nails was making cars. It’s a big change but I know Trent and Atticus can get it right

suction ,

Nothing weird about it

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Kia poached their designers from Audi of all places.

LustyArgonianMana ,
@LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world avatar

I have a friend who got a brand new EV6 and LOVES IT. He’s the absolute last person I’d expect to love Kias, his previous car was a Lexus SUV. And he loves everything about his EV6 and would buy it again ig. So yeah, the company does seem to be different these days

couch1potato ,

I have a 2017 ioniq hybrid and I’ve been happy with it.

finley , (edited )

I was referring to a 2024 Ioniq6. I saw this and was obsessed all day. This car was hot. I especially liked its backside.

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/ad8e585b-413e-4cf9-9df2-82aaa662d3fe.jpeg

It’s an automotive design trend I’ve seen for 2 decades in the Mercedes CLS and CLA series, and even as far back as the original Infiniti i35 back in the mid-90s. The whole body of the car is just one big arc. I love it. It”s so elegant and sporty.

Threeme2189 ,

It reminds me of old Porsches. It just looks sporty as hell!

finley ,

I have a great deal of experience of Porsche’s. I actually hate them. They’re expensive, impossible to maintain, and extraordinarily uncomfortable. I believe these cars are far more enjoyable to drive and own.

Threeme2189 ,

I don’t doubt that they aren’t ideal for everyday commuting. I was talking about how they look.

thatKamGuy ,

Not a fan of the Ioniq6 design personally, but I know where you’re coming from; I’m obsessed with the Abarth 500e Scorpionissima in acid green! 🤤

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The new Toyota Prius has a Lambo tint as well. EV’s are ditching the weird blocky designs and make it look good

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a10230f2-6d12-4896-988c-4864a7a72ace.png

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Its all good, Elon got paid.

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

If that was the cost of BEVs getting a toehold in the auto industry…

… Nah that still sucks, bad deal

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

It was a joke. The fact he got paid for doing nothing to right what is a failing car company is a condemnation of the stock market.

e8d79 ,
@e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

This is not surprising. When Tesla started out they had not much competition. Now that all the other carmakers have entered the market it is much harder to maintain their lead. Tesla losing market share was pretty much to be expected and Musk alienating their customers and the laughable Cybertruck certainly did not help.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

When Tesla started out they had not much competition.

Half the joke of the company was how they stepped in and bought a bunch of the EV-1’s patents and plant infrastructure for a song, then spun around and sold EV production credits to the Big 3 auto companies so they could greenwash the SUV industry. Had GE simply kept turning out EV-1s, they’d have cleaned up during the late Bush Era gas price explosion. Instead, Musk got top dollar to churn out heavily subsidized sports cars while racking in government subsidies and deposits on cars that wouldn’t be built for half a decade.

Musk alienating their customers and the laughable Cybertruck certainly did not help.

Americans have a downright neurotic fixation on big trucks. I don’t think his Cybertruck idea was necessarily all that bad on its face. But he’s so fucking slow, he’s such a shitty product manager, and he was so heavily derailed by the promise of Robotaxis that Ford and Rivian beat him to EV Truck delivery.

Now his brand new flagship vehicle is barely more than a punchline.

Grandwolf319 ,

So is the shares increasing cause of the Chinese EV tariffs?

0x0 ,

Tesla’s sales in the second quarter of 2024 fell to 49.7 percent of all US EV sales.

Unless the other 50.3% were of a single company, which i highly doubt, i fail to grasp how Tesla lost market dominance.

isolatedscotch ,

chinese EVs are cheap, plentiful and work just as fine as teslas

mephiska ,

And aren't for sale in the USA. If they were Tesla would have lost that 50% a few years ago.

That said overall EVs are taking up a larger part of the overall market, so this is just a headline number. This was always going to happen as the other manufacturers started making competitive EVs.

ryathal ,

They lost dominance because they aren’t the majority anymore, just the plurality. It’s not a hard concept.

Jakeroxs ,

Their point was clearly that they are still the majority out of all other companies in comparison, just not the most compared to literally the aggregate of all other manufacturers.

ryathal ,

That is the definition of plurality.

Jakeroxs ,

Right but I’m not sure why you said, “It’s not a hard concept” when the person was responding to the headline that says they lost market dominance, when that seems a bit misleading.

0x0 ,

I think the statistical nature of the comment you’re replying to kinda flew right past you.

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

If I wanted a death trap I'd buy a Ford Pinto!

Kecessa ,

Credit where credit is due, Tesla makes some of the safest cars on the road if we exclude the Cybertruck.

drsilverworm ,

What other company sells cars that self-drive themselves into fatal collisions?

Kecessa ,

I’m talking about crash ratings but as far as I know actual collisions data is in favor of Tesla vs non-self driving/assisted driving cars.

finley ,

because that 3 1/2 ton monstrosity will absolutely demolish anything it collides with.

Wispy2891 ,

The cybertruck seems ultra safe for the driver. RIP to who gets hit by it, though

Kecessa ,

It actually doesn’t absorb the impact well because it’s too rigid

finley ,

not to mention that having 3 1/2 tons slamming into you at however-many mph tends to end poorly, regardless of the crumple zones on your car and especially when it’s mounted that high up.

Thorny_Insight ,

Tesla Model Y 2024 scores near-perfect in IIHS’ crash tests

AmidFuror ,

This deserves a pay package in the billions.

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