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_sideffect ,

Why do people still use Chrome?

Please uninstall it from everyone’s home pc and phone that you come into contact with

Tja ,

Because it’s fast and works well enough to keep the fame acquired over the last 10 years.

4am ,

Slower than Firefox

Tja ,

I use both for my job and my subjective feeling is that chrome is faster. Js benchmarks seems to confirm it. Privately I use Firefox 95% of the time but I understand people who stay on chrome just out of inertia.

victorz ,

I’m a Firefox user on desktop and mobile, and I definitely feel like Chrome is faster on both platforms when I (have to) use it. But I prefer Firefox for the ideology and dev tools (on desktop), since I’m a web developer by trade, so the dev tools make a big difference for me.

IronKrill ,

There was a short period a few years ago after the Quantum update that I would have partially agreed, because Firefox’s renderer was much smoother. But Chrome seems to have caught up, because it’s been much faster every time I test something in it in the yesrs since.

_sideffect ,

At the cost of zero privacy, data being stolen and other fundamental issues and morals that Google lacks.

IronKrill ,

Which is invisible to users, meaning they can ignore it or handwave it with “I haven’t got anything to hide”.

RobotZap10000 ,

Or worse, “They already know everything about me, so why bother?”. One of my relatives says this. Kill me now.

Holzkohlen ,

Refreshing change from reading about some new AI powered tracking nonsense in Windows.

kakes ,

It baffles me that they sell Chrome as private and/or secure, and baffles me even more that people believe them.

sudo ,

It baffles me people use chrome.

SorryQuick ,

Why? There was a time when chrome was significantly better, and most people hate change.

kava ,

I remember back in the day everyone used Firefox. Then Chrome came out and there was a nice ad campaign and it was actually way faster.

Then slowly everyone switched to Chrome. At some point in the last 15 years, it switched to Firefox being superior.

I switched back to Firefox maybe like 7~ years ago? But I did it for open source reasons.

dan , (edited )
@dan@upvote.au avatar

There’s a bunch of stuff in Chrome that’s special-cased to only allow Google to access it.

Not sure if it’s still there, but many years ago I was trying to figure out how to do something that some Google webapp was doing (can’t remember which one). I think it was something to do with popping up a chromeless window - that is, a new window with no address bar or browser chrome, just some HTML content.

Turns out the Chromium codebase had a hard-coded allowlist that only allowed *.google.com to use the API!

Edit: my memory was a bit wrong. It was this: stackoverflow.com/a/11614605. The Hangouts extension was allowlisted to use the functionality, but if any other extension wanted to use it, the user had to enable an experimental setting.

Gestrid ,

Are you talking about the “apps” that Chrome used to support? They removed the feature years ago to reduce bloat and RAM usage or something like that.

Before they removed the feature, I had actually figured out how to create my own “apps” that’d simply load webpages I visited often at the time, like Twitch.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

I found what I was talking about: stackoverflow.com/a/11614605. It was a feature that the Hangouts extension could use, but the user had to manually enable it in the browser settings for any other extensions to use it.

The apps feature is still there just with a different name. It’s labeled as “create shortcut”, and you have to check the box to open a new window. I use it just because Firefox doesn’t have a similar feature.

QuantumStorm ,

I don’t know why, but my head automatically put that as “the apps formerly support by Google” the same as “the artist formerly known as Prince”

cubism_pitta ,

Google does a lot of standards breaking things.

Like allowing a link on Google Apps Marketplace to open a new window (like popup) with POST instead of GET. (This pretty much ensures that buying an app will fail for browsers that follow the spec)

victorz ,

This garbage behavior is in Chromium as well?

Gloria ,

Andromxda OP ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

victorz ,

Here, you forgot this: ``

nyan ,

Would everyone who is surprised by this please raise your hand? . . . That’s what I thought.

gofsckyourself ,

I am

homesweethomeMrL ,

License and registration, sir

11111one11111 ,

Really? That’s not what the data from your api says /s

littlewonder ,

Keep your hand raised because I’m coming in for a perfectly-landed high-five!

moriquende ,

perfectly-landed never happened before, and never will

gjoel ,

You don’t need to actually write it, just raise your hand and we have registered your vote, either via your computer’s camera, Google Nest, Google Assistant or inferred it by analysing the WiFi data returned by your Google Mesh network.

victorz ,

Not surprised, but still disappointed.

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

i think it’s used for the performance testing feature in google meet n stuff

RecluseRamble ,

Of course there’s some legitimate use case to it. Just like every privacy rights undermining bill helps “the children”. Doesn’t mean that’s the only or even the main goal.

powermaker450 ,
@powermaker450@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

this just in: google is still spying on you in every way possible

faltryka ,

Is this for malicious harvesting or is this part of their chrome device trust product for enterprises?

homesweethomeMrL ,

WINK

Andromxda OP ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No, as far as I know this has nothing to do with attestation/verification for enterprise users.

alphapuggle ,

Uhh do we know if this extends to sites.google.com?

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Not an area I’m familiar with, but this user says no:

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40918052

lashkari 5 hours ago | prev | next [–]

If it’s really accessible from *.google.com, wouldn’t this be simple to verify/exploit by using Google Sites (they publish your site to sites.google.com/view/<sitename>)?

DownrightNifty 5 hours ago | parent | next [–]

JS on Google Sites, Apps Script, etc. runs on *.googleusercontent.com, otherwise cookie-stealing XSS >happens.

Andromxda OP ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You can check this yourself. Just paste this into the developer console:


<span style="color:#323232;">chrome.runtime.sendMessage(
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  "nkeimhogjdpnpccoofpliimaahmaaome",
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  { method: "cpu.getInfo" },
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  (response) => {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    console.log(JSON.stringify(response, null, 2));
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  },
</span><span style="color:#323232;">);
</span>

If you get a return like this, it means that the site has special access to these private, undocumented APIs


<span style="color:#323232;">{
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  "value": {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    "archName": "arm64",
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    "features": [],
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    "modelName": "Apple M2 Max",
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    "numOfProcessors": 12,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    "processors": [
</span><span style="color:#323232;">      {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        "usage": {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">          "idle": 26890137,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">          "kernel": 5271531,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">          "total": 42525857,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">          "user": 10364189
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        }
</span><span style="color:#323232;">      }, ...
</span>
crazyminner ,

Suprise Suprise!

Imgonnatrythis ,

Ianal, but this sounds like something worthy of suing their ass over. There’s not much Google would respond to and good luck beating their lawyers, but the only language they speak is $, so please try to take as much as possible away from them for this garbage.

empireOfLove2 ,
@empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Hmmm, no way this could ever turn into a security hole, I’m sure of it.

mrvictory1 ,

Google Meet can show CPU usage, they aten’t trying to hide this.

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