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pedroapero ,

What else are people expecting from Micro$oft ?

30p87 ,

Malware characteristics Windows

  • Backdoor/Automatic file download/execution ✓
  • Logs keys ✓
  • Injects into other processes ✗
  • Solely designed to only make money ✓
  • Prevents removal of itself/parts ✓
  • Does not annoy the user ✗
  • From an untrusted source ✓
  • Closed source ✓
  • Sells your data ✓
  • Tries to gain control over the ‘user’ ✓
  • Relies on unawareness to exist ✓
  • Minimal ✗
  • Compatible with many systems ✗
  • Basic features do not cost like a new GPU ✗
Cobrachickenwing ,

Looks like Microsoft needs to be reminded about their anti trust case again. some things never change.

Tygr ,

Bing sucks. Their customer support is absolutely terrible. They blocked one of my sites and I can never get a response, so I just don’t bother with it (and don’t advertise there)

phoenixz ,

I’ll say it a million times if I have to

Install Linux, take back your computer, get rid of the microshit problem

Prethoryn ,
@Prethoryn@lemmy.world avatar

The game I want to play isn’t available on Linux.

Estebiu ,
@Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Send a letter to the game developers, and if they don’t plan on supporting linux, don’t play it. Simple as that.

drbluefall ,
@drbluefall@toast.ooo avatar

or, and hear me out:

github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton

DreadPotato ,
@DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yeah proton still has a lot of limitations and workarounds to get many games working, so if you just want true plug-n-play you’re not going to be satisfied with that solution.

drbluefall ,
@drbluefall@toast.ooo avatar

Yeah, but I’d still argue that it’s a lot better than nothing, and we have Valve to thank for making a lot of Windows games actually playable on Linux.

DreadPotato ,
@DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz avatar

Of course it’s better than nothing, at its definitely working OK, but gaming on Linux is still not quite good enough in terms of user experience. Average users don’t want to, and honestly they shouldn’t, debug just to play their game…

stephen01king ,

This here is the reason Linux will never take off as a mainstream desktop OS.

ddkman ,

I am actually not sure this is correct. Voicing your opinion about wantong native support is a much better direction than trying to run a more and more accurate windows emulator.

Estebiu ,
@Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’ll paobably take off, just not in our lifetimes.

s_s ,

There are soooooo many games.

phoenixz ,

Which one? Because in today’s world nearly all games are supported unsupported games are exceedingly rare

m3t00 ,
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

set the edge homepage to google. don’t use the widgets. crap news sites mostly

kugiyasan ,

Just… Don’t use edge altogether? There are so many browsers with better privacy (librewolf, brave, ungoogled chromium, etc). Any reasons why you want to stick to edge so badly?

stib ,

Showing it to the man! Good job refusing to give into surveillance capitalism by using… oh, wait…

Honza368 ,

Why would you still use Edge, though? It’s a slow, bloated and spyware filled browser. Honestly, you’re better off with Chrome lol

m3t00 ,
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

i don’t use it. for when windows opens it trying to shove it in my face. was some msn crap

Wyvven ,

Can they also get google telling me to switch to chrome every time I open an email to become classed as malware

Honza368 ,

I don’t usually defend big corpos but compared to what Microsoft is doing, that small Chrome pop up is super minor

N00b22 ,

Yeah, on /r/assholedesign I have seen posts about these popups

Crozekiel ,

Anyone else notice the search (in windows 10 at least) suddenly being fucking useless? Used to be able to just type “disk man” and it defaulted to the disk management control panel, now it’s defaulting to a Bing search (in edge of course even though Firefox is default browser) for the phrase… Tried it on like 4 computers and only one was even offering the control panel as an option and it wasn’t the first one. Same thing with “default apps”…

Really glad I made the jump to Linux when I did, everytime I have to do something out of the usual user use case in windows at work I find myself more and more frustrated and jaded with windows.

ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

Confirming this on (my sister’s installation of) Windows 11. Not even restore point would give me a result (switching to en-US at least found Reset my PC but still creating a restore point is nowhere to be found unless you know where to go from previous versions of Windows).

phoenixz ,

Install Linux, problem solved

ChaoticNeutralCzech , (edited )

I actually installed Mint before going through the Windows OOBE. However, the laptop is so new that the touchpad, touchscreen and fingerprint sensor don’t work in kernels <6.5, and the Wi-Fi card in kernels below 6.0. Most distros ship with kernel 5.x and none have LTS versions with 6.5 (which only became stable this week). I am not nearly skilled enough to go with a non-mainstream or unstable distro. My sister will need Windows so I configured GRUB to boot that by default with 0.2 s hidden timeout and now I can’t boot to Linux at all. I’ll be reinstalling it anyway in a few months.

That being said, Windows is also terrible. You can’t configure the fingers to only scroll and the active stylus to only draw in a note-taking program, the touchpad’s horizontal scrolling is reversed while the vertical is not, the handwriting recognition has not improved since my grandpa’s 2004 Windows Mobile PDA, there is a shitton of telemetry, and uninstalling Edge caused the fingerprint reader to stop working somehow. Without asking, it encrypted my storage with BitLocker (which I cannot configure because it’s not the Pro edition) and I had to enter two 48-digit codes to unlock the D: and E: partitions on each boot (thankfully I removed that). I would welcome encryption if it unlocked on Windows login and didn’t completely lock non-Microsoft account users on the same device from the storage partition. NumLock stays lit in Sleep mode or when the display is closed. Also the manufacturer CaReS aBoUt pRiVaCy and therefore included a camera cover but has a fucking persistent app that “monitors the system” and shows extended warranty popup ads, but is required to limit the battery charging voltage.

And the internal PSU makes a maddening coil whine all the time but the company just said “manufacturing is difficult and we screwed up, just use headphones lol”. It could be fixed by some soft glue, foam or rubber around the inductors but I think I would lose the warranty over this.

phoenixz ,

Sounds like the biggest (only) issue is drivers, then? Most distros (mint too) have repositories for newer kernels,nyou can turn those. Should be fairly easy to setup

ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

I have been warned against using Mainline due to instability. I will wait until a stable release, it’s my sister’s laptop anyway and I have another.

phoenixz ,

Mmm, as long as the kernels themselves are stable you should be fine. Worst case your computer won’t boot up and you simply boot back into the previous kernel

ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

simply boot back into the previous kernel

That’s asking too much from somebody who cannot fix a screwed-up GRUB config from a Live USB (it took me several tries to successfully update-grub from the Mint installation, and the one time I succeeded, the config is wrong and I cannot boot into it: GRUB menu never shows up no matter what I press, and I set Windows as default for my noob sister). As I said, I’m not the primary user and I will now be mostly debloating and customizing Windows for her, after which she takes it to college. So working Linux is not on the agenda until Christmas at least, and I’ll put up with WSL (or my own laptop) until then.

phoenixz ,

That part is actually really easy, at least if you have a boot menu (most installs should have this)

ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

Did you read what I wrote? I did have a GRUB boot menu before accidentally disabling it. Now booting “ubuntu” or “EFI” from BIOS just boots the default GRUB entry (Windows).

And pen support is a disaster in Windows. It can differentiate the pen from fingers but giving each a different action? Nope. Krita works but the Erase button shows context menu while the Menu button scrolls. GIMP senses pressure but only allows clicking, not dragging (I can draw points, or straight lines if I hold Shift). In Pinta, there is no pressure dynamics and the Erase button does erase but only when the pen is hovering above the screen. This is what I’ll be resolving in the next days so that I can give my sister a decent guide to notetaking, writing & drawing with the pen.

i_stole_ur_taco ,

I’ve had issues in the past where the local full text search index was broken and no apps or settings ever came up, so it only offered Bing searches for shit like “control panel”.

There’s a way to clear it and force it to rebuild, but I’m not so sure this is the same problem that you’re describing since you’re seeing it on multiple computers at the same time.

CrateDane ,

It’s not sudden, it’s been garbage for a while.

dutchkimble ,

This is getting tiring, not microsoft or Google or apple or any other, its too hard to be private these days, using nextdns, vpn and mull but I still dont feel safe browsing

Madex ,

Pushed me to endeavour os

MonkderZweite ,

What is C:windowstemp? Wasn’t LOCALAPPDATA supposed for that?

eddanja ,

Stop trying to make Bing happen. IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

const_void OP ,

Sweaty desperation by Microsoft

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I like that it exists. I don’t use it, nor do I plan to, but I like Google having more competition.

I personally use DuckDuckGo, another Google competitor.

stephen01king ,

Which also relies on Bing on the backend.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Sure, but it has other unique features that make it different and nicer to use than Bing.

Hyperi0n ,

I use Bing on the regular for the points but Firefox for everything else.

regbin_ ,

What are you using instead?

DeathWearsANecktie ,

Bing AI is great

argv_minus_one ,

Windows is malware.

ninjamice ,

There was a thread on hackernews a few days ago (maybe even yesterday, time is a construct) where someone shared a screenshot of a pop up ad served to them by the OS itself.

Wtf. Why would anyone willingly use that crap?

cheery_coffee ,

It’s not even free. It’s the only OS you can walk into a store and buy.

intelati ,

Ubuntu needs to change that. Hey Walmart, here’s a $1 thumbdrive you can sell for $5. 500% markup! It’s a can’t miss deal!

JakeHimself ,

Seeing a very popular and powerful $5 OS next to $100 Windows cards at the store would be pretty compelling. I guess their advantage would still be that all you need is a code to install Windows on many machines while you need to boot into an external drive to install Ubuntu (and any other OS).

HughJanus ,

Cable used to be ad-free also

JustARegularNerd ,

If the screenshot in the article is to be believed, it literally has a typo, missing a quote for Don’t, which is usually one of the most common ways to spot suspicious activity and malware, and now, as someone working for an MSP, I have to now tell those users who see this that confusingly, yes this was legitimate and it was a Microsoft ad. The font isn’t exactly standard either, the buttons look like Arial which also just looks suspicious.

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

Reminds me of that Facebook class action settlement that was legit, but it looked about as convincing as a ransomware screen

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