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PrivateNoob ,

Hot take, but this police cybertruck looks pretty rad tbh, putting the obvious real life issues aside tho.

prole ,

Looks like what “the future” looked like in the 80s and early 90s. Like Total Recall or BttF Pt. 2

veeesix ,
@veeesix@lemmy.ca avatar

Gallacher later told 404 Media that the email was something of “a joke,” but reaffirmed the agency’s wish to obtain a Cybertruck before other agencies, even if more for “community engagement” than using it as a patrol vehicle.

In other words, we have too much money.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

and this is why defund the police was such a hot topic. To those on the other side, they think we mean “Get rid of all police, zero funding, go away”

When in reality it’s “Uh, they literally have too much money, they’re buying literal tanks. What if we took some of that tank/cybertruck money and gave it to trained professionals who could help in conflict situations?”

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S ,
@PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

To those on the other side, they think we mean “Get rid of all police, zero funding, go away”

It was literally “abolish the police”, but the shitlibs watered it down to nothing as usual.

MonkderDritte ,

Or better training, so people don’t hat them. Though, there is laws too.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I know in a good chunk of rural US training is a checkbox, something that just gets done. It’s the good ol’ boys who get into those positions, friends and family

LukeZaz ,

Honestly? Considering how little the police actually do to help anyone, versus the huge amount of harm they cause, I’m not entirely convinced that “Get rid of all police” wouldn’t be a good idea, even if they got replaced with basically nothing. And I’ve seen a lot of leftists who felt similarly. So “those on the other side” aren’t entirely wrong; they just don’t understand how incredibly bad police are.

This doesn’t mean we should replace the police with literally nothing — obviously things investing in social services and crisis intervention would be great. It’s just that I find it hard to do worse than what currently exists.

djsoren19 ,

The problem is that to argue this point, you have to start going through all of the facts like case conversion rates, the domestic abuse rates, the rates of racist attacks by law enforcement, and the membership overlap between law enforcement and white supremacist groups. Once you start bringing up that many numbers, the idiots get confused and their eyes roll out of their skull, whereas the centrists get too scared realizing that basically no cop is actually trying to keep the U.S. safe and try to shutdown the conversation.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I’m not a fan of all or nothing, I think there’s a place for a well trained police force. Look at Europe and the UK, they aren’t armed, but they have power still. Someone has to take care of the person who stole a car and is speeding down the freeway going 100+, crisis councilors aren’t going to be driving trying to perform a PIT maneuver.

I think it’s a blend, in my example the police would bring them into custody, and then trained people work with them after that working out what happened and working with the justice department. There are many things that police aren’t needed at, like domestic issues, but there are plenty we do need them at too. (However, reforming the police needs to happen, I’m not saying they are perfect right now.)

JaymesRS ,

Probably need them for off-roading on rural gravel roads.

Vodulas ,

I think you might be being sarcastic, but in Anaheim? That is where Disneyland is located. Not much rural there.

pbjamm ,
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I am not even sure you could find an unpaved road in Anaheim unless it is part of a park.

SteevyT ,

I think they have speed bumps, don’t they? I know there are curbs just waiting to be run over.

Vodulas ,

Probably voids the warranty, though

JaymesRS ,

It was more a joke about the people who keep uploading videos of them “offloading” in their cybertrucks (trying to justify their purchase) and it’s really no different than a whole lot of actual rural roads that people drive on daily with their 20 year old two wheel drives sedans.

Vodulas ,

Got ya. I figured it was something like that

nightwatch_admin ,
originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

well, intelligence is not a requirement. it tracks.

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