A look at search engines with their own indexes

ConstableJelly , 26 days ago

Seems fair, in reference to Kagi:

Unrelatedly: I’m concerned about the company’s biases, as it seems happy to use Brave’s commercial API (allowing blatant homophobia in the comments) and allow its results to recommend suicide methods without intervention. I reject the idea that avoiding an option that may seem politically biased is the same as being unbiased if such a decision has real political implications.

Ilandar , 26 days ago

it seems happy to use Brave’s commercial API (allowing blatant homophobia in the comments)

The “blatant homophobia” claim is an overreaction. The closest thing to this is one post by a single user who said “there’s nothing wrong with being against gay marriage…it’s political opinion and everybody has the right to theirs”. That user was basically the only one arguing in support of Eich in the thread and that was the most controversial thing they said. I think to try and frame this as Kagi implicitly supporting homophobia through a lack of moderation is very disingenuous. If you read through thread you can see many attempts to moderate the discussion, including several locks and warnings.

ConstableJelly , 26 days ago

I can’t disagree. But as one facet among others, I also think “concern” is reasonably warranted in conducting a comparative assessment.

Edit: also worth highlighting: “there’s nothing wrong with being against gay marriage because it’s a political opinion” is certifiably homophobic. How much responsibility Kagi’s moderators bear for not removing that comment or otherwise explicitly advising that homophobia won’t be tolerated is debatable, but it’s not great.

Ilandar , 26 days ago

Affiliation with Brave and, therefore, Eich is relevant and deserves to be mentioned in the interest of potential users. I just think the way the author extrapolates their own opinion of that comment into an implication that “Kagi allows blatant homophobia on their forums because of company bias/their affiliation with Brave” to be really misleading and underhanded.

BCsven , 26 days ago

Stract is no non-sense

Fubarberry , 26 days ago

After using Kagi a few months I’ve switched to Brave, and been pretty happy with it. It can be low on image results, but for regular web results I haven’t needed anything else.

Kagi was pretty good, but it didn’t really seem good enough compared to Brave search to justify $10 a month.

ByroTriz , 26 days ago

Thanks. I used mojeek a few years ago and was not satisfied, maybe it’s time to give it another go

Ilandar , 26 days ago

Same. I switched to it earlier this week and it’s better than I remember. It’s either improved or I was being too picky last time, though the image search is unusable IMO.

Mojeek , 25 days ago

working on it! If you have any searches not working for you then please send them in to us; it’s one the main ways in which we identify issues and improve Mojeek for everyone.