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There is a trove of flash animation that is completely lost to history

From Homestar Runner to Salad fingers to badgers, stick figure battles, and the End of Ze World, this — dare I call it an artform? — was a cultural touchstone for a generation.

Flash made vector animation available to the masses, and internet distribution of the relatively small video files was a piece of cake. With the filetype now essentially deprecated, the creators gone on to bigger and better things, the distribution sites shut down, it is a dead form. Most of it will be lost forever, although there may be someone archiving some of it for posterity.

amio ,

A lot of it was lightweight enough that archival sites etc might not have specifically ruled them out, aside from specific efforts to preserve Flash material. There are also modded versions of Flash Player and emulators that can still play SWFs, and FLV remains supported fairly commonly.

Masta_Chief ,

Guys, homestarrunner literally works again thanks to something called the Ruffle Project (just from reading the website. Enjoy the vector graphics and Easter eggs again

thevoidzero ,

Yeah it is sad that we don’t have flash. But today I saw there’s a program Ruffle (written in Rust) that can run flash, and add support to browser through extensions or something.

Willdrick ,

Theres are some pretty massive archives already, including Flashpoint

rikudou ,

Salad Fingers is on YouTube and it’s as creepy as ever. Maybe creepier as I get older.

667 ,
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Might I enquire about your spooooons?

Lost_My_Mind ,

They’re a pleasure for the TIPS!

dragontamer ,

Flash still got it good.

Consider the entire generation of 1970s and 1980s Betamax footage that is basically lost today.

When format wars snap to one side: VHS vs Betamax, HD-DVD vs BluRay, Flash vs HTML5, QuickTime vs DivX… The losing side basically loses a ton of footage.

For the most part, we know how to play Flash right now and mostly how to upconvert it or otherwise archive it. That’s not true of all formats.

aeronmelon ,

A lot of the meme-tier flash from that period has been archived on dagobah.net.

SteveFromMySpace ,

HSR has been preserved don’t worry!

Frozyre ,

Nah, they're still out there in other forms. Some other people, have archived the SWF files (like StickDeath's) on Internet Archive.

I just miss going to the actual sites to view them in. I was going to say that Joe Cartoon was the last beacon of that but if you go there, it's just YT videos all decorated around the site's design. It's not the same.

henfredemars ,

There are in-browser emulators written in JavaScript. Like any old content, I’m more worried about sources going down rather than not being able to run the flash.

Aatube ,

The biggest one (also adopted by the wayback machine) is actually written in Rust (compiled to WASM).

ThePantser ,
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I miss Romp.com it was all adult themed videos.

W_itjust_works ,

Is the tech no longer possible? I have a feeling of no current browser support and security issues, but could one just have a private server for hobbyists?

W_itjust_works ,
pivot_root ,

Ruffle is a Rust-based implementation of a SWF player. It’s not 100% compatible, but it has decent AVM1 (ActionScript 1/2) and AVM2 (ActionScript 3) support already.

It also can be compiled to WebAssembly, making it possible to run Flash in the browser again.

Kelly , (edited )

For creators that were still active some jumped ship to pre rendered videos, for example Salad Fingers lives on here:

youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9383CC2C6DBD902F

A major archival project for the whole flash era is Flashpoint Archive (formally known as BlueMaxima):

flashpointarchive.org/?lang=en-US

pivot_root ,

People jumped ship to prerendered videos even before the death or Flash, using Flash as the video player.

It’s been over a decade since I learned this, but if I recall correctly, SWF animations that were large enough had desync issues with the audio and frames. The solution was to export the animation as an actual video file and play that back.

simple ,

They’re not lost, most of them are archived via Flashpoint. The most notable ones have also been exported as regular videos on sites like Newgrounds. But yeah, I miss that Flash era where people made fun animations and games for whatever was on their mind.

captain_aggravated ,
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The thing I find that is lost is the blurring of the line between video game and animation. Homestar Runner cartoons were often interactive, they made several outright games but also the things that were closer to animations often had easter eggs in them, from (in Strong Bad’s words) dumb stuff that would pop up to entire extra scenes.

Early Youtube had a thriving animation community, but given the limitations of video-based content they really couldn’t do those interactive elements, then Flash died, and now that culture is basically gone.

Retro_unlimited ,

I remember some great flash games I used to play, and I know they are lost media now. But there are people archiving tons of flash stuff at “Flashpoint Archive”

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