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Piped/Invidious

In the lght of recent events (gloogel complaining about uBlock) I tried to investigate other available options out there. While Piped.video definitely works, it looks like it is only fluid for popular videos, and as soon as I want to watch something a little more obscure, it is basically impossible, I have infinite wheel spinning.

Have anyone here tried self hosting Piped/ Invidious, and could share a feedback about performance /usability ?

ikidd , (edited )
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

I just set up Piped a few days ago, it was pretty simple to set up. The documentation in general is pretty shit, but there’s enough info on how to set up the docker-compose, the script it runs is pretty good.

I use it remotely at my farm over Starlink, pulling from the homelab that has a hardwired 150 down/15mbps upload speed, and it seems to work fine as a client. I put it behind a reverse proxy with basic auth to prevent randos from accessing it.

Edit: so I’ve gotten down to using it and there’s a lot I like about it vs. Youtube. Your feed is just your subs, nothing else. If you watch a video, you can set it in your prefs to not show it again in your feed. And you can just hit the Listen icon on an item and it’ll only play the audio. There is absolutely nothing extraneous in your feed.

Trending is just the default view a non-logged in user would see on Youtube. It’s pretty useless. There is no algo for suggesting videos, so i you rely on that to get new content that’s likely to appeal to you, that’s not going to work well. If you watch a vid, it will include the Related videos you would see on the YT page, so maybe you can get some non-subbed content that way. Otherwise, it’s all search to find new stuff. Which I’m ok with, I find I’ll just hare off following the algo and waste a bunch of time watching half of a buncch of vids that I really didn’t want to see. This keeps it focussed on my actual feed.

I would like to be able to sleep items in my feed but I don’t see an option for that.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E OP ,

Thanks for detailed feedback! Same question as another comment below : how much ram u need? I am kinda constrained on that

ikidd , (edited )
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

The whole stack is using less than a gig right now.

i.imgur.com/7CMjCRl.png

shrugal , (edited )

I self host a personal Piped instance, and it works without issues for me. The videos load just as quickly as on YT itself, and the UI feels faster because it’s not as bloated. Setting it up was fairly easy too, I just had to customize and run the docker compose config they provide.

hottari ,

I run a private invidious instance, it’s been bliss amidst all the adblock threats from YouTube. Hope it never stops working, I would quit on YouTube for good if it did.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E OP ,

(Well there is also yt-dl, but i find it less convenient)

hottari ,

Not doing that. Would literally give up on YouTube if they blocked all the frontends.

Fisch ,
@Fisch@lemmy.ml avatar

I use the Piped instance piped.adminforge.de and it works well enough. How popular a video is doesn’t make a difference but sometimes nothing will load for like half an hour or something. That’s fairly rare tho.

M500 ,

Viewtube was pretty easy to get running. Their rocker container started up almost right away.

The only problem I have with them, is that it doesn’t seem to import my YouTube subscriptions.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E OP ,

How much minimum RAM requirements?

M500 ,

I’m not sure, I have an old machine with 16gb. It ran fine in that, but I found a better solution for myself shortly after.

There is an iOS extension that lets YouTube play in the native iOS browser. It blocks ads as well, so I just use that.

The privacy focused stuff is cool, but I’m blocking ads and my watch progress is saved which is important to me.

xxd ,

I selfhosted Invidious a while back, but gave up on it when it stopped working and I couldn’t figure out why. I have no experience with Piped.

I settled on a third alternative, but I don’t want to point too much attention to it because I think it might be flying under Youtubes’ radar at the moment. But let me say this: if you embed a youtube video on a third party site and have it be part of a playlist with only the video in it, you won’t see any ads. so for example I’d be embedding a link like this: www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/dQw4w9WgXcQ?playli…on my own page and can then watch it without ads :) if you have any questions, feel free to hit me up.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E OP ,

Sounds like a loophole that would be pretty easy to cover from YT? Why would they be so generous and not showing ads in playlists

Wierd lol

xxd ,

yeah I know, makes no sense. I’ll use this workaround for as long as possible, but I’m sure I’ll have to move to Piped or Invidious sooner or later.

feminalpanda ,
@feminalpanda@lemmings.world avatar

Playlists usually don’t have eyes watching so businesses don’t want to pay for their ads on playlists.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E OP ,

Butbutbut radios don’t have eyes watching neither? Lol

xxd ,

The thing is, I do see ads when I open the embedded video/playlist on youtube! I don’t think businesses would specifically avoid embedded playlists, but then happily advertise on playlists on youtube. It just looks like an oversight rather than a business decision to me.

diminou ,

I’m selfhosting invidious for a few users (5), only downside is it have to be restarted every once in a while to clean up the db (cron every one hour did the trick pretty well). Very usable on every video :-)

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E OP ,

you mean clean up the ram usage? not db

Ok nice to hear that, will give it a shot

diminou ,

Yeah something like that sorry was just waking up 😂

From the doc : Because of various issues Invidious must be restarted often, at least once a day, ideally every hour.

fushuan ,

Lmao the docs. That translates to: we have memory leaks but I’m not getting paid for this so deal with it. 😂😂

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