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Squirrel ,
@Squirrel@thelemmy.club avatar

RTFD, or something like that.

BiNonBi ,
@BiNonBi@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I think you mean RTFM. But in this case it’s WTFM so I can RTFM.

original_ish_name ,

No, i think op is saying RTFD as in "read the fucking discord"

BiNonBi ,
@BiNonBi@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ah, in that case we need something like MTFDS, make the fucking discord searchable.

philluminati ,

This hits home. Discord is a terrible product I don’t know why anyone likes it.

platypode ,
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It’s admittedly quite good at what it was originally supposed to be: a voice chat service for playing games that’s easy to join, use, and share. The troubles began when they started trying to pivot to be a general-purpose public internet space provider, because the platform was never supposed to be that and they’ve done absolutely nothing to support it.

Tater291 ,

Discord is great for what is is. It just shouldn’t be used for anything other than some chat and some voice.

RoundSparrow ,

Matrix chat as the core developer hangout I find is similar

spez ,

true

sherlockandghibli ,

man up, dude (obviously /s)

^ man as in the man thingy to understand a code, like manual

vile ,

Hate this so much, very much into 3d printing (voron right now) and huge parts of the community are on discord it’s just an absolute pain to use

Damage ,

Annex engineering requires phone number verification to enter their discord. Fuck that.

Overzeetop ,

The phone number gatekeeping is annoying. I think ChatGPT requires it. I can’t use it because it won’t accept my phone number as I only use VoIP numbers. Never mind they used to be land and cell numbers I posted there. Same with some banking sites. No sms 2FA allowed because the gateway they use can’t jump to voip - the codes just never arrive.

cuacamole ,

Imo the discord works quite well. For mods the github repo us great and for most questions a diacord is enough. I like the fact that i can quickly share stuff and get answers. Forums always felt very clunky to me. I can use them, but the culture us often a bit shit, and then there are those that need registration to view posts or pictures. While those problems also apply to discord, i dont need a ton of accounts, i can somply join a server.

Mandy ,

This applys to so much more than just programming now, sadly

ox0r ,
@ox0r@jlai.lu avatar

Also, putting documentation in a format that has way too many features so just reading docs takes up 40% of CPU usage. Yes ,fuck you for using gitbook, i hate it so fucking much

MajinBlayze ,

Pull requests welcome!!

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

To be fair, a discord comment from five years ago is still more helpful than Amazon AWS’s actual documentation.

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

at least you can google Amazon’s wrong answer, there’s no way to Google a right answer that’s locked away in a Discord room …

kr0n ,
@kr0n@lemmy.ml avatar

Totally agree, please let the doc be doc, not a chat.

PS: what were the original subtitles of the screenshot? :)

pineapplelover ,

The only real alternatives to Discord is Matrix and Revolt. I am on both and there are a good number of people on there but they aren’t too active. Wish they would be more popular and widely used

SpaceCadet2000 ,
@SpaceCadet2000@kbin.social avatar

I think you're missing the point here. The solution to the "documentation on a chatroom" problem is not putting documentation on another chatroom.

joao ,

The lack of indexable pages is a killer, what a waste of human time to be answering the same basic questions because every previous answer gets sucked into the black hole of a walled chat room with bad search.

worfamerryman ,

I see a lot of things that have a discord community.

Why is this? Is it a way for someone. To earn extra money? Or do they just like that platform?

Eccitaze ,
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It’s free*, insanely easy to set up, you don’t have to worry about port forwarding or ddos or hosting fees, has powerful moderation tools, and there’s a plethora of easy to deploy bots that help manage permissions and automate routine tasks. Literally, if it had a proper web-accessible forum similar to phpBB, it would be perfect.

master5o1 ,

Basically the same reasons subreddits supplanted forums.

TWeaK ,

Lots of users gush over Discord for some reason. My impression is that more technically minded people don’t really like it, but your average user uses it for almost everything and encourages more services they like to use it. Hence why many reddit subs moved to Discord - the mods didn’t necessarily prefer it, but they were sent an overwhelming number of requests from their users.

worfamerryman ,

Thanks for the heads up, i guess I just a bit too old to have been part of the discord group.

In the country where I live, it’s all Facebook messenger. It’s a shame as o think a number of people don’t really care for it, but everyone and every business uses it so we are kind stuck.

TWeaK ,

Yeah I mean I don’t understand it either. Telegram is bad enough for me, can’t be assed with Discord.

narnach ,

Discord is easy to setup and use. It’s basically a chatroom with history. It can help build a community. It’s also a horrible way to store/archive information because it focuses on real-time communication. At larger scale it also tends to get too noisy.

worfamerryman ,

I don’t care for the real-time communication aspect of it. In fact i find it unusable.

Am I supposed to just sit there and read random conversation and wait for a point to jump in?

Seems like it takes too much effort.

Damage ,

Especially when there’s multiple subjects being discussed on the same channel

P1r4nha ,

I mean, that is what IRC chat rooms were back in the day. Or any public chatroom from the 90s.

Realtime communication has its part. We use Slack at work all the time. But searching Slack is a horrible way of replacing missing documentation.

Saigonauticon ,

I’m usually on the documenting side of things. If something like this starts unfolding, I produce text or HTML files anyway, they go on github/lab/whatever, and I wash my hands of what happens next.

In the end I write documentation mostly for myself. When the company can’t figure things out over Discord or whatever ephemeral chat interface they use, I get called anyway.

Dirk ,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

> I produce text or HTML files anyway

I do extensive in-code documentation. The compiler discards all comments so I don’t worry about commenting my code. Source code is for humans to understand and write anyways.

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