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TheKingBee , in Microsoft Edge could use a win
@TheKingBee@lemmy.world avatar

Bing chat has saved edge and bing search for me, it just works. I ask it a random question, like how many spiders you’d have to eat to have eaten a pound of them and it just tells me and shows the work. I don’t need to look up how much a spider weights and then do math myself, it just does it.

Firefox is still my main browser, but I’ll open edge to ask dumb questions and I have a lot of stupid questions and it has answers without me needing to dig through bullshit to find what I need.

Amuck7157 ,

Get the extension that enables bing chat for Firefox

1847953620 ,

Sounds like a great way to get a wrong answer

Pamasich ,
@Pamasich@kbin.social avatar

The great thing about Bing Chat compared to other chatbots is that it sources its claims. I always check the sources before trusting it.

1847953620 ,

Sounds like a regular search with extra steps

Pamasich ,
@Pamasich@kbin.social avatar

With regular search, I have to look through all kinds of results before I find something, and often I have to adjust my search parameters until the search engine even understands what I'm looking for.

The AI still needs me to actually confirm what it's saying, but that's checking 1-3 links, not entire search result pages.

It's also just waaaaay easier to talk to my search engine in natural language than keywords imo. I never know what keywords get me to my intended destination, I guess the difference is less big for people that do.

TheKingBee ,
@TheKingBee@lemmy.world avatar

It shows it’s work, you can follow it’s citations to ensure it’s not complete bullshit.

Also no seriously these are dumb questions, I was watching Fraiser the other day and it implied his ratings were in the millions, and I asked bing if that was even possible considering he was on AM radio in the 90s (it’s not), but even if it was completely wrong it literally doesn’t matter…

Rodeo ,

You really should reconsider your priorities if stupid questions like that are what causing you to stay with edge.

“Hmm do I need privacy, or do I need to know how many spiders are in a pound?”

Daft_ish , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

How long is Microsoft going to play this game? We don’t want your browser and we didn’t want it since Netscape. No one trusts you.

Sheeple ,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

I want it

Daft_ish ,

Bizarre

fiddlesticks ,
@fiddlesticks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Username checks out

Nobsi ,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

I want it. I use it.

Sheeple ,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Team edge!

Phen ,

For as long as they want. What we want doesn’t matter. They are a very large company, so what they want is above what we want.

Daft_ish ,

Obviously

Honytawk ,

And this mentality is exactly why they keep shoving it down our throats.

People should stop equating Edge to Internet Explorer. It isn’t the same browser, it has a lot less problems, it is quite a lot faster, it it compatible with anything.

Edge shouldn’t have the stigma of Internet Explorer. It is a very decent modern browser.

Faxing_Berlin , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

CTT Windows Utility -> Tweaks -> Remove Microsoft Edge

kumatomic , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

chk232 , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Edge is pretty good now imo

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar
Swarfega ,

It was. Now it’s bloated with Microsoft’s services and thrown in your face if you don’t use it as your default. For example Outlook defaults to opening it for links in emails even if you have a different browser as you default. Bullshit move Microsoft.

doctorcrimson , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

I use Edge whenever something needs to stream on a Windows PC, unlike other Chromium builds it is capable of hardware acceleration and therefor 4k streaming. Whenever you watch 4k on Google Chrome it isn’t really that high quality.

wildturbofan ,

Its not hardware acceleration, it’s DRM.

doctorcrimson ,

You can add as much context and nuance as you want but at the end of the day the hardware usage is locked behind a door that Edge has the key to and Chrome doesn’t.

TheFriendlyArtificer ,

Except that you are literally saying that Chrome/Firefox doesn’t have the ability to stream HD when, in fact, they are. It’s just the shitty antics of one of the sleaziest companies in existence.

doctorcrimson ,

They are on higher end machines, but they don’t have the same capabilities of Edge on Windows. If it were Chromium on some other OS then they would probably be functionally equivalent.

termus ,
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

As much as I hate Edge and Chrome, ,my 5.1 surround sound doesn’t work in Firefox. So if I want to watch something in surround on Youtube I have to switch to Edge. Then the nagging starts.

LaChaleurDeLaNuit , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Honestly have been using edge on my work computer for a while now and see no reason to change. I use Firefox on my personal computer but for now Edge is just fine.

4rs3n1k , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

I’ve been using Edge for 2 years now. No problems whatsoever ever. You can stop begging MS.

Baizey ,

The begging is considered a feature

Sheeple ,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Beg harder<3

Yes that’s the good stuff

Cwilliams , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

there actually begging at this point

tooclose104 , in Microsoft Edge could use a win
@tooclose104@lemmy.ca avatar

The weirder thing is I was replacing a users desktop the other day and updating default apps. Edge did its usual “pleas love me” bit but then so did Windows Mail as I was changing it to Outlook 365 of all things…

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

noo dont replace me with another microsoft email program!

wooki , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Don’t worry Gill it will set itself back as default next Tuesday

Polar ,

I’ve never had that happen. Either the US version of Windows is fucked, or people are bullshitting hard.

bonn2 ,

I had it happen once after a windows update. What it has done is put a shortcut on my desktop enough times that I wrote a script to check for and delete them whenever it does.

chiliedogg ,

What is does do way too often is make itself my default PDF viewer. I’ve got Adobe Acrobat Pro and Bluebeam. I have zero reason to ever want to see a PDF in Edge.

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

I’m in the US and have never ran into half of the stuff people say MS forces on them on a daily basis.

HawlSera ,

Same

whofearsthenight ,

I think this has a lot to do with what license you bought. My old Win8 Pro key install has never had ads and shit pop back up or re-enable candy crush or whatever. One of our shitty laptops at work with a win10 home license I absolutely dread updating because there is some new bullshit nearly every time.

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

I’m on 11 home. :/

JokeDeity ,

I’m still on 10, but half the shit I see people complain about with Windows I’ve never experienced personally. Maybe I’m just lucky? Maybe I just read? I don’t know, but I’m not having the same experience as a lot of people on here.

Phen ,

In general any bad thing about windows that it manages to fixes still gets commented about online for several years after the fact. For example: BSODs stopped being a regular thing in windows user’s life very long ago, but it took another 10 years after that for people to stop making BSOD jokes online.

JokeDeity ,

Ironically enough, I actually did have my first blue screen in likely 5+ years yesterday. I was so shocked by it I wasn’t even mad, just impressed it’s been so long.

WashedOver ,
@WashedOver@lemmy.ca avatar

There was a while there where it would default to Edge for PDFs and as a web browser after a update. Quite annoying for a factory full of PCs that I wanted to use Chrome and Adobe Reader instead.

I tried Edge for a bit but stuck with chrome. Recently I’ve gone back to Firefox but I’ve not had one of those major updates yet that even tries to get me to log into Microsoft as a log in so it will be interesting when that happens again if Edge shows up as the default.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I have to use Acrobat for my job. If it opened it up in Edge every time instead, I’d go nuts.

Phen ,

From time to time when you update windows it’ll show you a welcoming setup again similar to the first time you logged in. In that process it will try to convince you to setup some Microsoft stuff on your pc, including changing default apps, but it shouldn’t do it on its own.

But sometimes it does. It happened once for me this year.

dingleberry , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Gee Bing. You really are pathetic. Respect yourself dude.

jaschen , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

This joke was funny when Chrome was superior, but now Edge is actually better.

shalafi ,

Edge is my daily driver and has been for a couple of years. Seems faster than Chrome, but maybe that’s just my perception.

I think these haters are hating because Microsoft. Or, they’re too ignorant to realize Edge is Chrome under the hood.

joneskind ,
@joneskind@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure if it really could be faster than Chrome since they share the same web renderer (chromium) but Edge is definitely better optimised than Chrome when it comes to memory usage since MS has a better understanding of how its own OS works on a lower system level.

jaschen ,

I also own a Chromebook and their Chrome browser blows on it. So ya.

programmer_belch ,
@programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I wouldn’t have a problem with Edge if it wasn’t always running in the background, it’s quite spooky. Not to talk about when it gives me the popups to not change the browser, it is my computer and I will do what I want with it

Polar ,

Firefox always runs in the background on my PC also. I’m sure there’s a way to disable it, but by default it’s always there.

programmer_belch ,
@programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Sometimes you let some apps linger but edge is in the background from the beginning. And I’m sure you can disable an option in firefox but to get rid of edge the only option is the command line and erasing all of its files until the next update comes around

LostWon ,

There is a setting in Edge to stop it running in the background after it’s closed (it shouldn’t do that in the first place, but this is at least useful because if you don’t turn off the web links in your Start menu search results, Edge can be triggered to open by accident from there and then continue to run in the BG after you close it).

Still on Windows 10 and I haven’t noticed Edge running in the background on startup (and obviously I have it set not to do that in Windows). I’m guessing though that it’s possible it might always be on if you use Cortana? I always have Cortana off too.

w2tpmf ,

We use Edge in our company for the integration since off of our users are on 365.

On some hold outs that kept trying to cling on to Chrome, I just changed the beachball shortcut on their desktop to open Edge instead. None of them have noticed the change over a year later.

fox2263 ,

Finally someone talking sense.

jaschen ,

It’s funny how nobody talks shit about Apple.

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

maybe, but they are both proprietry spyware and chromium based. firefox is better than both

Beanie ,

Mozilla isn’t exactly perfect either

docAvid ,

Then try Waterfox

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

or try librewolf.

jaschen ,

I agree. But sometimes your pages won’t load with Firefox. For you and me it’s great. We can get around it. For your parents and grandma’s, it’s a nightmare.

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

ive heard of that, but ive never had that happen? stock firefox seems to load everything for me, but maybe its due to spoofing a chrome useragent, or bc i tend to avoid sites like that. librewolf with default setttings, or hardened firefox is admittedly pretty buggy for a lot of websites. i would say brave is an easy upgrade from other chromiums, for family members, but i still think stock firefox is alright for that too

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  • jaschen ,

    I’m a WEB UX designer that helps with testing new pages and Firefox sometimes doesn’t render things that all the other browsers can.

    Firefox is great for privacy but shit is buggy.

    jim_stark ,

    Edge is stuff tacked on Chromium. How can it be better?!

    melooone ,

    Isn’t chrome also based on chromium? I would argue they are equally bad, because both are proprietary.

    heftig ,
    @heftig@beehaw.org avatar

    When I see the current version of Edge I’m reminded of those bloatware-packed OEM Windows preinstalls adding useless toolbars to Internet Explorer, except this time it’s a sidebar.

    I’m disappointed, and when asked by people I recommend replacing Edge. Preferably with Firefox, but even Chrome is better.

    jaschen ,

    It’s like saying Mac OS is just a Linux distro. It’s similar but actually pretty different when it comes to how it manages its memory.

    gearheart , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

    Next time edge is going to ask… what are you going to do? Install Google chrome? 😂

    aubertlone , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

    Y’all I dislike forced browser adoption as much as the next guy.

    And I’ve been using Firefox for years and years and years now.

    But, I’m forced to use edge for work. And, as a browser purely, none of the anti-trust baggage attached…

    It’s really not too bad. A lot of things work just fine. And sometimes, if I’m having weird performance on a website on a personal device, loading the same URL in edge has resulted in improved/expected functionality of the website

    mnoom ,

    with the amount of updates I think Edge is better than chrome now, but I still use firefox

    soviettaters ,

    I continue to use Firefox because I started using it a while ago and would rather not switch. I have to use Edge for school and it’s legitimately equal to Firefox in many ways. With Bing AI added, Edge blows Firefox out of the water.

    PoolloverNathan ,

    The only reason Bing AI only works on Edge is because Bing AI specifically checks for edge. There was an extension that made it work on Firefox by simply lying about the browser, but Microsoft DMCA’d the developer.

    grumpyoldgit ,

    Yes, when I have used Edge it’s been absolutely fine. Probably better than Chrome. I’d likely be quite happy to use it most of the time if it wasn’t for the fact that Microsoft are so intent on forcing me to do so.

    I mostly use Vivaldi now which I think is by far the best of the Chromium-based browsers.

    explodicle ,

    IE was like that for a while too. Never again.

    ILikeBoobies ,

    Yeah the problem with memes like this is (according to market share) that there are people that switch from Edge to Chrome and think they are actually using a better product

    PixxlMan ,

    Edge isn’t terrible at all. That’s why it’s such a risk to browser diversity and competition

    jack ,

    Change your job

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