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Speiser0 , (edited ) in thisIsGoingToBeASeriousDebate

Definitely left. Right one won’t be optimized. (And there are so many some mistakes in your inline asm…)

TadoTheRustacean OP ,

What mistakes?

Speiser0 ,

Mostly the missing listing of clobbered registers. Other than that it’s mostly just that you’re doing useless things, like manually putting the stuff into the registers instead of letting the compiler do it, and the useless push and pop. And the loop is obviously not needed and would hurt performance if you do every write like that.


<span style="color:#323232;">asm!(
</span><span style="color:#183691;">"syscall"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">in</span><span style="color:#323232;">(</span><span style="color:#183691;">"rax"</span><span style="color:#323232;">) </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">1</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">in</span><span style="color:#323232;">(</span><span style="color:#183691;">"rdi"</span><span style="color:#323232;">) </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">1</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">in</span><span style="color:#323232;">(</span><span style="color:#183691;">"rsi"</span><span style="color:#323232;">) text_ptr,
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">in</span><span style="color:#323232;">(</span><span style="color:#183691;">"rdx"</span><span style="color:#323232;">) text_size,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">)
</span>

(“so many” was inappropriate, sorry.)

TadoTheRustacean OP ,

I am hopeless at getting the text_ptr simpler than i64::from_str_radix(&format!(“{:p}”, my_string)[2…], 16).unwrap(); How can i get it the normal way?

Speiser0 ,

Just use str::as_ptr().

Here’s an example (disclaimer: I haven’t used inline asm in rust before, expect issues): godbolt.org/z/sczYGe96f

raubarno , in thisIsGoingToBeASeriousDebate

Why do you call write() for every char? You can always just pass a pointer with its length.

TadoTheRustacean OP ,

I am not skilled enough to do that ngl

darcy , in Hobbyte
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

hoGiB

threelonmusketeers ,

Hogibibyte?

iAvicenna , in They used coding and algorithms
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

In their head that probably sounds like levitation and animation spells

Cwilliams , in They used coding and algorithms

Yes, very

r00ty Admin , in They used coding and algorithms
r00ty avatar
function goingToCrashIntoEachother()
{
    // NYI
    return false;
}
odium ,

//TODO: implement logic

ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

<span style="color:#323232;">//tested: 100% working on actual drone
</span>

– You mean drones, right?

nxdefiant ,

unittest 100% complete, story closed.

guycls ,

Ship it!

Sigmatics , in They used coding and algorithms

Very high effort reddit screenshot repost

verstra , in thisIsGoingToBeASeriousDebate

Camel case?

this_is_not_going_to_be_a_serious_debate

DNOS , in thisIsGoingToBeASeriousDebate

Ec Emm this side is the best one …

++++++++[< +++++++++>-]<. ++++[<+++++++>-]<+. +++++++… +++.

++++++[<+++++++>-]<++. ------------. ++++++[<+++++++++>-]<+. <. +++. ------. --------.

++++[<++++++++>-]<+.

cypherpunks , (edited ) in thisIsGoingToBeASeriousDebate
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

dc <<<‘10435358689859 70511561 11297399 23 5 3 2 ******P’

note: lemmy’s “smart quotes” vs its input sanitization required me to code-format the second half of that line (and not the first half) to make it copy+paste runnable.

cypherpunks , in thisIsGoingToBeASeriousDebate
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar
Player2 , in They used coding and algorithms

Coding and algorithms. That’s how you know it’s good

ezchili , in We did this to ourselves

What

tatterdemalion ,
@tatterdemalion@programming.dev avatar

It’s making fun of dynamic languages because rather than letting the compiler prove theorems about statically typed code, they… don’t.

deegeese ,

Turns out getting working code is a lot cheaper and more useful than formally proven code.

tatterdemalion , (edited )
@tatterdemalion@programming.dev avatar

And a lot more bug prone. I’m just explaining the OP because people didn’t get it. I’m not saying dynamic languages are bad. I’m saying they have different trade-offs.

deegeese , (edited )

The problem with formal proofs for code is that it assumes the spec/requirements are complete and bug-free.

I find most bugs come from missed or misinterpreted requirements.

tatterdemalion ,
@tatterdemalion@programming.dev avatar

I have a feeling you are misunderstanding what is meant by “theorems for free” here. For example, one theorem that is proven by all safe Rust programs is that they don’t have data races. That should always be a requirement for functional software. This is a more pragmatic type of automatic theorem proving that doesn’t require a direct proof from the code author. The compiler does the proof for you. Otherwise the theorem would not be “free” as stated in OP.

Anders429 ,

Cheaper? Yes, I guess so, depending on how you measure cost. More useful? Absolutely disagree.

deegeese ,

Industry will pick functionality over verification every time.

Buttons ,
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

Industry will leak PII without consequence every week.

mikidep OP ,

Industry will choose not to verify that your function does not produce NullPointerException wasting hours of the client’s work, because in order to do that they would have to have actual requirements for software developers, and in order to do that they would have to 1 - have the managers be actually technically literate, and 2 - pay the developers properly That’s it. That’s the theorems. The “formal verification” we’re talking about here are those of the likes of “this value is a damn integer”, or as you could interpret it “your code is not stupidly broken”.

To be clear, I’m not writing this big comment for you, I know you’re trolling or whatever you’re into, I’m writing this to inform other readers. ✌🏻

BradleyUffner ,

And maintainable code is even cheaper and more useful than that in the long run.

floofloof ,

Ah, the long run. I keep trying to explain this concept to management, but without success.

sping ,

Yes, that’s why we use typing, to get better working code more easily. That’s why I use type annotation and enforced checkers in Python. It makes it so much easier and quicker to create good systems of any significance.

FiskFisk33 ,

The technical debt is strong in this one

deegeese ,

You call it tech debt, I call it last quarter’s profits.

xmunk ,

I may just be an old country lawyer PHP developer… but don’t most dynamic languages also support static type checking and general analysis at this point?

tatterdemalion ,
@tatterdemalion@programming.dev avatar

Yes if you use type annotations. Languages like Python and Typescript end up resorting to “Any” types a lot of the time, which breaks any kind of theorem proving you might have otherwise benefited from.

xmunk ,

I know Java developers that are addicted to Object. Hit them over the head with an ensmarttening stick and reject their PRs.

tzrlk ,

Java developers aren’t allowed to not know better by this point. If they think skipping types is somehow ideologically purer, keep hitting with that stick until you hit deckplate.

Solemarc ,

Yes but no. Modern PHP lets you put types in function signatures and it will then attempt to convert your inputs to those types at runtime.

JS/TS and Python don’t do this. They have optional type annotations that’s treated as syntactic sugar. You can use static checkers against this but if you get an error like “expected string got int” you can still run the code. It won’t behave any differently because you have annotations.

ShroOmeric ,

What

DumbAceDragon ,
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

Dynamic languages were invented by runtime error companies to sell more runtime errors.

gandalf_der_12te ,

What

TJmCAwesome ,

It’s making fun of dynamic languages because rather than letting the compiler prove theorems about statically typed code, they… don’t.

gandalf_der_12te ,

yeah yeah, thanks, i get it. It was more of an ironic “what”

XpeeN ,

What

tzrlk ,

Though even statically-typed languages can need to check types sometimes; parsing runtime data for instance. I can see how you’d do that with pure statics, but it’d just be shifting the work (e.g. if token == QUOTE: proc.call(read_str(bytes, len))). It’d be cool to see a counter example that isn’t unreadable gibberish, however.

PotatoesFall , in We did this to ourselves

I need an explainer on this one

steersman2484 ,

<span style="color:#323232;">if (theorems_for(free))
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    make_instance_of(x, String)
</span>
ezchili ,

What

db2 ,

Magnets.

deegeese ,

It’s a miracle!

RoyaltyInTraining ,
@RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world avatar

How do they work?

threelonmusketeers , in They used coding and algorithms

Something something minimum-snap-trajectory…

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