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PSA To people watching YouTube with AdBlockers

You might have noticed that even on Firefox (depending on your lists) YouTube may detect uBlock Origin on Firefox now

There’s already a workaround (found, again, here), but I figured I would use this opportunity to tell people that projects like Piped and Invidious exist, which both allow you to watch YouTube without loading their ads, with improved Privacy and (in the case of Piped) even Geoblocking-Circumvention and SponsorBlock out of the box.

They’re both great tools, and using something like LibRedirect you can even automatically go to Piped or Invidious when clicking/opening a YouTube link (and more).

Both don’t load ads, but unless changed in the settings Individous may still make connections to Google/YouTube to load the video(s) themselves.

Bit of a shameless plug for these projects, but I figured this is a really good time to show these projects as I often see people asking what they are in threads on here

squid ,

Do away with YouTube and use software like freetube, no adds, sponsorblock, and google can’t track my habbits

OpenHammer6677 ,

I’ve started using Freetube since this adblock issue. The only feature I’m waiting for is the ability to open in new tabs. Other than that, it’s an improved YouTube user experience

deweydecibel , (edited )

I will gladly accept my usual downvotes to remind people Sponsorblock is only hurting the content creators, not Google, and given there’s absolutely no threat of malware or tracking from a sponsored in-video ad, you have no need for it besides entitlement and a disrespect for the people that are already getting fucked over by Google in the first place.

librecat ,
@librecat@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

I don’t know about you, but when I watch a video I’m not there to watch an ad.

Also don’t forget about the bad companies and scams (example: Established Titles).

xtremeownage ,

Sorry… watching a sponsored video for world of tanks for the 10th time, or simply safe, or whatever other garbage is there isn’t going to make me want to purchase it.

I value my time… If I didn’t use sponsor block, I’m still going to skip right past it… This, just does it for me.

macaroni1556 ,

Not being a youtuber I don’t know, but do sponsors even know that you’re using sponsorblock? How could they tell?

Morgikan ,
@Morgikan@lemm.ee avatar

I don’t think they can really. I don’t work in that stuff, but skipping isn’t included in YT analytics from what I’ve read. I would bet they rely on something like average view percentage to just make assumptions. For example, if a content creator places the sponsor bit in the first 10% of the video, and average view percentage for that video is 80%, then it is assumed the sponsor bit was watched. I wouldn’t be surprised if sponsors require some form of transparency in analytic reporting for content creators to get paid.

I also would figure that YouTube, as it has no bearing on their revenue, is probably not going to add in analytic features for Skip just for the sake of some third party.

SnipingNinja ,

Pretty sure you can see the parts people see more on average (otherwise I assume the viewer interest graph on the track bar wouldn’t be a thing)

DrVerlocher ,

And I still don’t give a damn! There are two scenarios in case of sponsors.

  1. The creator already got paid for the ad before the video. or
  2. The creator is payed by percentage of their affiliate link.

It doesn’t matter if I skip for number one, obviously. Number two could be an argument. But 99% of those sponsors are borderline scams anyway, so I really don’t care, because I will never buy something off a sponsorship like that. Not NordVPN (which still tracks you btw…), nor Raid, nor any other crap.

Additionally, SponsorBlock also gets rid of those annoying reminders to “like and subscribe” barely a second into the video, and other such annoyances like fillers or those dumb spoilers that show the best parts of the video right at the start.

SponsorBlock isn’t the issue. It is a symptom of Googles unfathomable greed and the creators/consumers collective Stockholm Syndrome. I value my time more, than hearing the same five sentences about World of Tanks, Raid or any other braindead “game” repeated 500 times.

The only sponsors I don’t skip are the ones from InternetHistorian. He at least puts effort in and makes it fun to watch.

seyrine ,

Agreed. If any content creator makes an effort in their ad spots (Jay Foreman, How to Drink, and the aforementioned Internet Historian) then that automatically gets whitelisted on sponsorblock.

And often the ads for stuff like Raid or similar stuff can be jarring, with the audio louder than the actual video or beginning with some random sound that “captures your attention”. Thank goodness for sponsorblock.

mayo ,
@mayo@lemmy.world avatar

Before I found sponsor block I would just lazily skip large sections of videos. The app is just more convenient.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

YouTube: makes ads more and more intrusive.

People: block annoying intrusive ads.

This guy: “YoU’rE jUsT hUrTiNg ThE cReAtOr!”

Companies will keep making ads worse and worse until people stop putting up with it. I’m not going to put up with their bullshit so that the content creator can get 0.0001 cents from my view. If you want to support the creator that’s what Patreon is for.

Auli ,

I mean people don’t have to watch Youtube. Also all this shit about ads and then blocking them but still watching Youtube does nothing. People actually not using the platform might make a difference.

Psythik ,

SponsorBlock is useful for more than just skipping sponsored segments, you know.

I use it mostly to remove the “hey guys” and “like and subscribe” bullshit that is in literally every. single. video. It’s irritating and I’m tired of hearing it.

Also, the “skip to highlight” is useful for those of us with ADHD. It keeps the less interesting videos interesting. Not everything needs a 20 minute intro before they get to the subject of the video.

HonorIsDead ,

Sponsor block says it’s skipped about 18hrs since I started using it. No way I’m going to stop using it when I have a choice.

hottari ,

You are entitled to your own opinion but it’s because of Google’s content monetization strategies that user-generated videos now include native content ads. Content creators are following the money. I don’t have to agree with them, Google or your nonsense opinion.

Rukmer ,

It’s good to keep in mind, but I mean do you sit there through 1-3 minute ads not skipping forward? I don’t watch much television, I mostly watch YouTube. So I watch a lot of it. What good is watching an ad going to do if I’m never going to buy anything from them? Once or twice, I’ve needed or wanted a product or service I thought might be promoted on YouTube, I went and looked for a creator to get a link/code from. But I think I did that two times in the past 9 years of being an avid YouTube watcher, and those times I was not buying the product due to ads, just thought I’d support a creator since I was going to make a purchase. I don’t have sponsor block (I use NewPipe and I don’t feel like learning a new app), but I just skip all the ads by tapping the skip button a bunch. They’re often 2 full minutes.

rbits ,

I’m going to skip the sponsor anyway, SponsorBlock just makes it way easier. I don’t have it on auto skip though, because 1: Sometimes they mark segments as sponsored that still have interesting stuff, and sometimes they do good sponsor segments, and 2: Maybe sometimes I’ll be willing to watch it. For example, I always watch the end segment of Jet Lag.

So it ends up being not very different from skipping the sponsor. And besides, I never bought/used anything from a sponsor segment before SponsorBlock.

randint ,
@randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

Hello there fellow Jet Lag enjoyer.

Thorny_Insight ,

When the sponsor is baked into the video itself, there’s no way for the advertiser to know how many of the people who watched the video, skipped past the sponsor. The only way they know wether their ads are working or not, is by seeing how many people used the discount code from said channel. If you’re the kind of person going thru the effort to install additional software on top of adblocker to get rid of this sponsored content aswell, I think it’s quite safe to assume you weren’t going to buy their product anyways.

Also if you’re still feeling bad about it, just donate few bucks directly to the content creator. That’s way more than they’re ever going to profit from you watching ads anyways.

rush OP ,

I use sponsorblock not for sponsors, but for things like non-music parts of MVs or interaction reminders tbh

Staiden ,

Thank you.

ChiefSinner ,

Just always browse incognito/private. I haven’t gotten hit yet. I strive for a leave no cookies behind type browser.

Trail ,

That’s a setting in Firefox.

rush OP ,

Librewolf is Firefox configured with many privacy-related settings out of the box, uBlock Origin and it clears all data on exit by default.

kemsat ,

You know what also works? Paying for Premium… hate me if you want, but I end up watching like 10+ hours of YouTube a week, might as well pay for premium at that point.

chiliedogg ,

Yeah. Despite all the evil things Google does, saying “either pay for our product or watch ads” is kinda reasonable.

I pay for premium and it’s fine. I still run Vanced on my phone because I hate lots of other things about YouTube, but I’m okay with paying for a product I use every day.

kemsat ,

Thanks homie. People act like it’s soooo ridiculous to pay $16/month to more freely watch what you already watch…

Subverb ,

I pay for it too. Blocks ads really well.

wildn0x ,

I’ll take YouTube over any other streaming service. With how much I consume of Youtube, only felt right to pay. Practically my cable at this point.

Thorny_Insight ,

Watching youtube without ads is kind of like eating meat. I can’t morally justify my behavior, but I will keep doing it untill it becomes a real inconvenience. I can’t make a good faith argument about why youtube should serve me amazing video content for free.

killeronthecorner ,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

They had a $5 tier and removed it to force the people on it to watch ads.

People were literally paying and Google stopped them from doing so.

kemsat ,

Yeah, that’s true. I totally forgot about that

princessnorah ,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

But don’t you know, they give you a whole streaming music service for free! /s

Psythik ,

That costs money, though.

yoz ,

Thanks mate

Thorny_Insight ,

I was having really bad time with the constant adblocker warning pop-up yesterday so I disabled all other extensions, restored uBlock Origin to the default settings aswell as cleared the catche and updated filter-lists. Then I cleared all Firefox cookies and restarted it. This morning I did not get the warning unlike the few past days, so far so good. I’m sure this isn’t a permanent fix, but for those of you still struggling with it, these are the steps you might want to try.

filister ,

It is also possible to install libredirect if you are using Firefox Nightly on Android mike.sg/…/how-to-use-libredirect-on-android/. You can disable the YouTube app and this would force your device to open the YouTube links in your default browser.

clanginator ,

If you’re on Android why not just use YT Vanced or Newpipe? Both are excellent and I haven’t had issues with YT Vanced since this change.

filister ,

I am using Newpipe, but libredirect can redirect more websites, not only YouTube.

clanginator ,

Ah I see, ty

xnileap ,

Could also use Fennec or Mull on f-droid instead of Firefox Nightly with less telemetry from Google and other vendors

MrSilkworm ,
@MrSilkworm@lemmy.world avatar

Once there was Vanced and now there is Re-Vanced. (if you’re on Android)

zaknenou ,

and there is also Newpipe! You can import your subscriptions. Only problem is that scam profiles’ comments with NSFW profile pictures are everywhere there, I still don’t know a workaround

noodlejetski ,

the workaround is disabling comments, you’re not going to miss out on anything anyway.

AngrilyEatingMuffins ,

Thanks!

jack ,

Piped.video and LibreTube never work for me, very unreliable.

smollittlefrog ,

In LibreTube, you can go to


<span style="color:#323232;">Settings > Instance > Disable Piped proxy
</span>

I only ever had issues with the piped proxy, not with the app itself.

aradgus ,

for piped i just use an other host from that list and it works totaly fine github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances

rush OP ,

Piped.video is the official instance, but there’s more

piped.adminforge.de and piped.smnz.de have relatively high uptime and quick fixes in my experience.

jack ,

Thanks for the hint, much better

JetpackJackson ,

Newpipe, Revanced, piped.video and Freetube are my go-to front ends now. Not even cause of the AdBlock thing, just cause.

JokeDeity , (edited )

No account access, not for me. I’ve curated this account for many years and I really like the feed of videos and creators I get. Until one of them can use my account, I’m going to keep battling the ads.

Voltage ,

you can subscribe on piped

JokeDeity ,

I can subscribe, or I can transfer over 15 years of subscription, watch history, saved videos, etc? Because those are very different things and I’m only interested in the ladder.

Voltage ,

I dont think importing is possible :\

princessnorah ,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You can definitely transfer subscriptions and saved videos, but I don’t believe there is a way to transfer your watch history. Google allows you to download XML files with details of the former, but not the latter.

That’s the case with Invidious anyway, I don’t use piped.

Holzkohlen ,

I just use newpipe on android and freetube on linux.

NaoPb ,

Thanks for the info. I’m on Linux and I’ll check that out.

TheWozardOfIz ,

Do these work for live shows?

pineapplelover ,

Yes. I use piped through libretube and it works for live videos.

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