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What's your opinion on using rw Blu-ray disks for storing movies, ect?

Well I thought about using them instead of buying a hdd, I looked for some comparisons and found a 50 pack of 25gb blu ray drives and a 2tb harddrive for 60, it can store 35 movies more (thinking the movie is 24 GB) than the pack of drives, and that isn’t accounting the disk drive to read the disks (Keep in mind these are just the first results on Google for me)

In my opinion the blu ray drives are more fun to use than clicking a file on a computer, but the storage payoff is huge

What is your opinion on this?

PS: I’m definitely buying the hdd instead

pelletbucket ,

you need one of those jukebox disc auto loaders

crossover , (edited )

The fun way to watch movies is to have a NAS with a Plex/Jellyfin server and browse them on your TV with a nice UI in the comfort of your living room.

Want to watch this movie in 4K Dolby Vision with atmos? Just browse or search for it and click on the poster art. Want to stop that half way through and watch a tv series instead? Go for it. It’ll take all of 5 seconds to navigate to it and have it playing.

After going through the effort to set that up, I can’t go back to anything else.

If a drive fails or other issue occurs with my NAS, it will send me an email and then shut itself down. Replace a dead drive and off I go again. No data loss due to RAID. (insert obligatory comment that RAID is not a backup solution and that you should have a separate backup for important files)

yessikg ,
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I enjoy storing things in blu rays but I splurge and get the rewritable ones, it’s definitely more expensive than buying an hdd

JoeKrogan ,
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Personally I would only use discs for an extra possible backup just in case.

Telorand ,

Blu-ray isn’t really rewritable (at least, not in the same way as a hard drive). You can add to it incrementally and erase everything once, after which it becomes a normal disc. So ultimately, it’s one-directional writing.

But my biggest problem with CDs (of which Blu-ray is a type), is that they are only as good as both the reader and the physical storage method. Want to watch a movie? Maybe the player’s laser has dust on it (or worse, a scratch). Maybe the motor has a short. Maybe your disc has a scratch in just the right place to make it unreadable by the player.

There’s just a lot more points of failure, even if you wanted to go that route.

wizardbeard ,

And as people are starting to find with old cheap CDs, they have a shelf life and just degrade after a certain amount of time. That time may be decades away, but depending on your use case it’s worth consideration.

ISometimesAdmin ,
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You're thinking of BD-R: BD-RE can be rewritten/erased hundreds of times

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_recordable

tobogganablaze ,

That sounds like a terrible hassle. I used to manage a lot of USB drives, but even those had capacities in dual digit TBs. Voluntarily dealing with GB sized storage sounds like masochism to me.

IonAddis ,
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Is this a nostalgia thing? Like how people who grew up without records now get vinyl for the looks or nostalgia of a time that was better or something?

The downside of optical disks for me was how easily they got scratched, plus you have to store them somehow, plus you have to get up and physically move something to play it. If you’re a super-neat person, perhaps this won’t be downside (I still have rips of a CD that used to be in my car and got scratched, so the rip has a part marred by skipping).

Also, are ordinary blu-rays kept in ordinary home conditions (that is to say, not archival and not climate-controlled or pitch-black) going to hang onto their data for 20+ years? Or is continually moving it to new SSDs and thinking about raid setups a better defense against data loss for an ordinary home media user? I remember vividly having old CDs and floppies that would not run years later due to becoming corrupted by physical media decay.

Anyway, I have no answers, just want to put some thoughts out there.

paskalivichi ,

I would only use CDs for long term storage, theyre still the best for that. HDD for convenience.

hrmtc ,

CDs degrades with time.

wildbus8979 ,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC

jkrtn ,

These are like $10 for 100 Gb. IDK if I love my files that much.

MDKAOD ,

Photos and phone data for nicely in this category. $10 is a steal.

Grabthar ,

All of my old PS-1 games on 25-30 year old CD-Rs work fine. You’d be lucky to get 10 years from an HDD. I start losing disks in my RAID 5 arrays at about 6 years, and if you are unlucky it could be under 3. I have a 10 year old USB stick (oldest one I haven’t lost yet) that has started failing. So CDs are looking pretty good long term. Would just be a pain to back them all up again, but you might only really have to repeat that once for a lifetime of use.

crypticthree ,

Commercially manufactured discs have a much longer life span than burned discs

Grabthar ,

True, but I am talking about CD-Rs, as per above. I assume you know what those are.

paskalivichi ,

Everything degrades with time. Drives degrade faster than disks in storage (assuming you store the disks properly)

bjoern_tantau ,
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Having to stand up and put in a disc when you just want to watch The Lord of the Rings Extended Edition on your toilet is too much work.

Khanzarate ,

Obviously you need a bluray player per disk and then RAID them together. Simple. Also a lot of extension cords and USB hubs to coordinate all that.

GravitySpoiled ,

You need a player. I have no player. A 1TB HDD is easier to manage than multiple BRs. People buy movies on BR and rip it to store on a HDD.

Going the other way round doesn’t make sense to me.

ANIMATEK , (edited )

If you use .iso files you will be missing out in quality and availability. If a better version of something you already burned is released, you will miss on that too.

If you use .mkv files, then why bother with discs in the first place? HDD in network and access everything, everywhere at any time.

If you start to scale to TBs, the price per GB of HDDs starts to drop dramatically. Look for refurbished HDDs in eBay.

The only real reason I can think of where physical beats digital is for playing the FEL DV layer on some UHD releases. But even then, there are ways to circumvent that.

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