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If civilization continues to the year 9999, is the idea to go to year 10.000, or...?

It seems like it’d get increasingly impractical as the years go on to hundreds of thousands and millions of years to write them out that way, but then…I guess technically one may already do this with the preceding years, so future’s fair game for it?

joel_feila ,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

Y10k bug will end society

Genericusername ,

By then, I don’t think that the use of earth’s orbital period around the sun would make sense as a unit of measurement. It is important to track the seasons if you’re living in an agricultural society. But the orbital period of the earth is not consistent across time, nor the time it takes for the earth to rotate. It doesn’t make a good unit of measurement. And don’t get me started on leap years, leap seconds, negative leap seconds, timezones and daylight saving times…

I’d prefer to base the new unit of time based on “Plank time”. About 10^44 of these are about one second. Now if we switch to the duodecimal system we can define 12^41 × Plank time to be our standard unit. It’s about a third of an earth second. 144 of these (12^43) equal roughly 3/4 of a minute. 144 of these (12^45) is about 1.8 hours. 12 of these (12^46) could be the equivalent of a day, 12 of that could be an equivalent of a week, and you can find an equivalent for a year. The duodecimal is unnecessary, but it makes division a bit neater. Now peak a date well before the beginning of human history to avoid the need for negative years (BC / AD) and that’s it.

That way you get a single number that you can manipulate arithmetically. Not like yyyy/mm/dd format where each part is a different length.

CoolMatt ,

…what?

Red_October ,

At that point we switch to a Year (three digit) and Millennium (M followed by two digits) system, so the year 10,001 would be noted as 001.M10. After 999 M10 we reach 000.M11, and so on. Most applications would only really need the year number. /s

woodgen ,

It would make more sense to switch to a calendar with a different year 0. Like when human civilization started, which would make.the current year to 12k+. Or when earth started, which revolutions around the sun we are counting. Which would make the current year something with 4.5 billion.

postmateDumbass ,

We shkuld switch to a base12 number and metric system.

geogle ,
@geogle@lemmy.world avatar

You’re thinking too small. Base 60 (Sexagesimal)…the Sumerians had the right idea.

HobbitFoot ,

There are a lot of things it depends on.

First is whether we are still using the same calendar base date. The currently accepted international system is based on Christendom, but there are other calendars out there with different dates. You could see a switch over if another group becomes more dominant. Or you could get another system implemented entirely; France tried to change its base year to the French Revolution.

Second is if Earth is the only human inhabited planet. We are already seeing that the Martian day throws a lot of coordination up in the air, and that is without having human bases there. It is possible that Mars develops its own calendar that better fits Martian time. At that point, the only link for calendars across humanity would be the Unix Epoch.

miak ,

The Unix Epoch is obviously the correct base for any calendar.

SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT ,

Why would that be a problem? We already often only use the last two digits to refer to the year, that’ll probably not change.

Luisp ,

Or we are in the year 12023

bhamlin ,

A000 is next

Scrollone ,

Found the Excel fanboy

FooBarrington ,

? It’s hexadecimal

dQw4w9WgXcQ ,

I would hope that time and date formats would be redesigned by that point. If we would live to y10k, I’d expect a lot of space colonization. At that point, I’d expect there to be some other point of reference to define timestamps.

DaleGribble88 ,
@DaleGribble88@programming.dev avatar

Agreed. Let’s get the conversation started on this. Personally, I’d like to use midnight of January 1st, 1970. That seems like a nice rational spot. The new time scale will just count the number of seconds since then. So, for example, this comment could be written at approximately 1699879376.

XeroxCool ,

Show me the real excel fan boy

[comment before with A0000]

I said the real fan boy

[DaleGribble88]

Perfect

Strobelt ,

That’s Unix epoch, dude. It predates excel

dQw4w9WgXcQ ,

I love it! That would be EPOCH!

olsonexi ,
@olsonexi@lemmy.wtf avatar

I don’t see why not. 5 digits isn’t too bad, and the issue wouldn’t come up again for another 90,000 years after that. Besides, we’ll probably extinct ourselves through climate change, nuclear war, and/or AI long before then anyways.

kzhe ,

We’ll probably have a Calendar system switch to a new major event

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

BC - Before Christ

AD - After Christ (but in Latin)

ADR - After Christ Returns (but in Martian)

olsonexi ,
@olsonexi@lemmy.wtf avatar

AD - After Christ (but in Latin)

eh… not quite

it actually stands for “Anno Domini”, which is latin, but means “in the year of the lord”

rappo ,

we should really update this to “After when some people thought Jesus was born but they fucked up by 4-6 years. Also why is there no year zero?”

AWSPTJWBBTFUB4YAWITNYZ doesn’t really roll off the tongue, though. Maybe it’s better if someone can translate that into Latin.

Edit: Google Translate says “Post cum quidam putant natus est Jesus, sed eruditionis 4-6 annis. Cur etiam annus nullus est nullus?” so I propose “Post cum”

Antimoon51 ,

That doesn’t work, PC is alfeady taken

AmidFuror ,

They'll just go to A001, thus pushing back the problem for 26,000 more years.

Thavron ,
@Thavron@lemmy.ca avatar

Thus pushing back the problem for 26,000 more years. solving the problem once and for all!!

lemmie689 ,
@lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

According to Zager and Evans, the year 9595 will pretty much be it.

piped.video/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA

CulturedLout ,

Never thought I’d see that song as being optimistic

Meho_Nohome ,
@Meho_Nohome@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m sure we’ll switch to star dates by then.

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