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How is Lemmy better than Reddit?

I am a reddit refugee. Keep seeing that this is supposed to be somehow better than Reddit. As far as I can tell, it follows a similar format, less restrictive on posts being removed I suppose. But It looks like people still get down vote brigaded on some communities. So I’m curious, how it’s better?

thawed_caveman , (edited )

You’re coming at this from the design and community aspect. I don’t think Lemmy makes significant improvements over Reddit on those fronts, it’s designed the same, has the same benefits and drawbacks. As of right now the small size of the community makes it lacking in diversity and impractical for niche interests (aside from tech-related ones).

My case for Lemmy being better is a business case: Reddit was a for-profit company backed by venture capital, and is now publicly traded. They are extremely susceptible to enshittification, and are in fact already deep in that process.

Meanwhile, Lemmy is an open source software that enables users to host their own social media. It’s not even a business at all, i’m not even sure if the developer (LemmyNet) is a business or a person or some other legal entity.

Fediverse social medias (Lemmy, Mastodon) are structurally resilient to the enshittification that we’re seeing from corporate social medias, and i like that a lot.

orcrist ,

The small community aspect also has benefits. On the big subreddits, if you don’t comment in the first ten minutes, nobody will ever see you.

thawed_caveman ,

Yeah, i was way late to this thread and yet i still got seen a bunch, and this has happened in a lot of threads.

Though i think that might be because comments are sorted by Hot by default, and i assume the “Hot” algorithm is designed in a way to surface new comments

Wiz ,

I found your comment just now, and it’s awesome! 😎👍

SonOfMothman ,

Personally, because I’m not banned for whatever reason a mod made up that day.

It’s smaller for sure, but I’m sure it’ll grow. I think once there’s enough content here you’ll see it as a just a different Reddit.

BigMikeInAustin ,

It’s still pretty easy to get banned on Lemmy. It’s still just human mods.

eleitl ,

It’s pretty hard to get banned on all instances of Lemmy. Particularly, your own.

SonOfMothman ,

Oh I’m sure I can be, but Reddit if goofy about it. I was permanently banned for “arguing” with a mod on r/ask the Donald after I… asked a question. They’re a sensitive bunch

BigMikeInAustin ,

Did you ask if people think Trump has been acting weird lately? Not an accusation, just asking a question.

SonOfMothman ,

lol no, it was a few years back. I asked how an alpha male can whine so much. I know it’s against their rules technically because it was “anti trump” but it’s a legitimate question lol. They talk about being alpha males and those snowflake libs… but then vote for a guy that whines more than my spoiled brat nephew

BigMikeInAustin ,

Ha ha!

lazycouchpotato ,
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The audience is mostly the same so you’re not going to find many differences there. It’s mostly the platform and its philosophy you’ll find a difference in.

Andromxda ,
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It’s not controlled by one single entity. Everyone can spin up their own instance and host their communities, and you can block instances that deserve it. And the software is completely open source and stuff, and it obviously works with all kinds of third-party clients and doesn’t try to monetize the API. And we don’t have spez, so that’s of course another benefit. And no ads! I could go on and on…

kratoz29 ,
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We have plenty of 3rd party clients baby!

lazynooblet ,
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RememberTheApollo_ ,

Less locked down than Reddit. No CEO bent on taking your user created content and charging for it. No CEO trying to polish a turd for advertisers to make $$ while simultaneously completely taking for granted and disregarding the mods and users that actually make Reddit exist. No communities captured by shills and groupthink. Well…except for places like hexbear or some .ml, but there’s no pretenses there. You know what you’re getting into. Lemmy is more egalitarian, plenty of apps for mobile devices, people generally have a discussion and not just be the retread cheap quip for upvotes.

Also, Reddit IMO has gotten “colder” for lack of a better word. People don’t upvote. You’re more likely to be criticized for a position than engaged with. Opinions that disagree with the hive mind are often quickly downvoted regardless of whether or not the position has validity.

Lemmy is just more chill.

VictoriaAScharleau ,

People don’t upvote. You’re more likely to be criticized for a position than engaged with. Opinions that disagree with the hive mind are often quickly downvoted regardless of whether or not the position has validity.

i experience this constantly on lemmy.

orcrist ,

There were multiple actions described. You’re saying that you experience one of them. Or maybe you experience more than one. Or maybe we don’t know, because you didn’t make it clear, which might make us want to downvote you, which suggests that you often experience being downvoted. :-)

UniversalMonk ,
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i experience this constantly on lemmy.

Me too!

Daxtron2 ,

Life on Lemmy (and reddit/social media in general) becomes a lot better when you turn off vote displays

SupraMario ,

Yep, and they don’t matter so who gives a shit.

Blaze ,

They affect visibility so they still matter to an extend

nomous ,

I like that if they matter at all it’s only in the context of the thread. The points aren’t tied necessarily tied to your account in a long term way so points don’t matter at the end of the day.

Daxtron2 ,

If you care about visibility sure, I’m just here to post and respond. I don’t really care if my comments are higher or lower in the list than someone else’s.

Buttflapper OP ,

I agree that votes don’t matter at all. Now please, except my humbly casted vote for you in the upward direction :D But no, I think psychologically speaking, votes actually do kind of matter because of mob mentality. If the first thing you see is something overwhelmingly negative, you’re more likely to think negatively. This was tested and seems to be the case, if people see a bunch of negative comments on something, they are more like to join in on the mob and downvote or be negative

Daxtron2 ,

Which is exactly why you shouldn’t have them on. Form your own opinions, don’t just go with the mob.

kandoh ,

Smaller community means your comment will get some actual attention

lost_faith ,

Lemmy, where the votes are made up and karma don’t matter

doggle ,

Open mobile app support

Ad free (depending on the app and instance, but its pretty easy to get Lemmy without ads)

No CEO to make whacky, unpopular decisions without clear purpose or recourse

No shareholders whose priorities will always take precedence over the users

There’s also something to be said for being part of a smaller community

Of course any and all problems can occur in microcosm within a particular instance or community, but it’s trivial to just block that instance/community. As for brigading, bullying, and harassment, Lemmy offers no solutions to human nature, unfortunately.

Feathercrown ,

Lemmy offers no solutions to human nature

This is an excellent way to phrase it lol

shortwavesurfer ,

Federation, this makes it immune to large-scale disruptions because a single instance may go down or a couple of instances may go down at the same time, but the entire network cannot be taken offline all at once without taking the internet itself offline.

dinckelman ,

The biggest upside to my Lemmy experience, so far, has been that you can stay within you communities, and actually have a decent conversation about the topics being posted. On reddit, it’s consistently been the exact opposite of that.

I get that not everyone is this way, but there are a lot of really, really frustrated people. Every comment ends up being either ragebait, an argument, or is neither, but still gets downvoted into fuck all, because people cannot differentiate a different opinion, from an incorrect one

lightnsfw ,

I haven’t been banned for suggesting child molesters don’t deserve to live. Can’t say that about Reddit.

Blaze ,

Happy cake day!

WolfLink ,

It has good mobile apps (And multiple options, depending on what you like).

Glide ,

Listen, I won’t dig into all the tech and philosophy of decentralization and anti-corporate ownershipa. There are other people here for that. But let me tell you why I am enjoying it: it’s small, it ends, and it feels like early internet.

I load up Lemmy, and see a series of disjointed memes, or a current ongoing meme (like pondering the orb) and absorb that for a short while. I see a couple world news articles, a couple about Trump and a couple about places that aren’t the US. I read an article about Ryzen’s new chips not performing well on Windows and see someone’s retro-gaming setup. Then, after about 10-15 minutes of scrolling, I go “oh hey, I remember this post from yesterday”, and then I close Lemmy because, and this is the important part, I’ve hit the end of new content in my feed.

I still get the news, I still take in a couple memes about the current state of politics, or a celebrity flying her plane altogether too much, but I am never stuck here. There’s no one trying to rage bait me for the sake of user engagement, and any argument I find myself in wraps up and moves on. I don’t feel disconnected, but I am also never completely absorbed, and my life is better for it. Sure, sometimes while I am waiting in a line I load Lemmy only to discover there’s nothing new for me in the hour since I’ve closed it. Sometimes I do the age old, “looking to busy myself”, close Lemmy because there’s nothing to see, immediately open Lemmy because I am looking for something to occupy my Internet poisoned brain. But being bored for a minute here and there is worth it, if it means a lot more free time because I am no longer absorbed in the rat race of infinite scrolling social media.

I think Lemmy is better in a series of ways, but the one that really matters is that it helps me put down my phone, and do things that I enjoy.

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