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How is Lemmy better than Reddit?

I am a reddit refugee. Keep seeing that this is supposed to be somehow better than Reddit. As far as I can tell, it follows a similar format, less restrictive on posts being removed I suppose. But It looks like people still get down vote brigaded on some communities. So I’m curious, how it’s better?

Ephera ,

You’re on lemmy.world, which is pretty much exclusively Reddit refugees, so you probably won’t see much difference in culture there, but that’s what I consider the main advantage.

As in, I left Reddit when I noticed the toxic culture was fucking with my mental health.
Lemmy isn’t particularly great anymore in this regard either, but still magnitudes better.

Boozilla ,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

lemmy.world is too popular (I know, I know, I also have a lemmy.world account). But the nice thing about the greater lemmy “galaxy” is you can still subscribe to communities from any instance, no matter what your home instance is.

kandoh ,

Smaller community means your comment will get some actual attention

lost_faith ,

Lemmy, where the votes are made up and karma don’t matter

shortwavesurfer ,

Federation, this makes it immune to large-scale disruptions because a single instance may go down or a couple of instances may go down at the same time, but the entire network cannot be taken offline all at once without taking the internet itself offline.

bstix ,

There’s a lot less commercial interest.

Not just no ads, but also no users trying to push products or gain karma for account selling and all that crap.

Zombiepirate ,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

The idea of someone trying to sell a Lemmy account is pretty funny though.

darkdemize ,
@darkdemize@sh.itjust.works avatar

Same with a Reddit account tbh.

jokersteve ,

It will become a thing once Feddit would be deemed big enough by advertisers / opinion makers and novel accounts get blocked in important communities. Like it happened on Reddit.

abbadon420 ,

The internet was not meant to be a commercial space. You gotta fight for you right to shitpost.

lightnsfw ,

I haven’t been banned for suggesting child molesters don’t deserve to live. Can’t say that about Reddit.

Blaze ,

Happy cake day!

dinckelman ,

The biggest upside to my Lemmy experience, so far, has been that you can stay within you communities, and actually have a decent conversation about the topics being posted. On reddit, it’s consistently been the exact opposite of that.

I get that not everyone is this way, but there are a lot of really, really frustrated people. Every comment ends up being either ragebait, an argument, or is neither, but still gets downvoted into fuck all, because people cannot differentiate a different opinion, from an incorrect one

WolfLink ,

It has good mobile apps (And multiple options, depending on what you like).

TheRaven ,
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Everyone’s talking about the tech, but I’ll talk about the user base. When you make a post or comment on Reddit, it often feels like you get lost in some black hole of other posts or comments. No one sees your comment because there are 1000 other comments on the same post.

At Lemmy, there are fewer users and fewer comments, but your comments actually get seen. People upvote. I weirdly get way more upvotes at Lemmy than I did at Reddit, in spite of the smaller user base here. Because of that, I’m way more active here than I was on Reddit.

ramirezmike ,

it’s such a backward argument but the fewer comments means I don’t spend a lot of time on each post and just move on with my life. I like it for the most part.

Glide ,

Listen, I won’t dig into all the tech and philosophy of decentralization and anti-corporate ownershipa. There are other people here for that. But let me tell you why I am enjoying it: it’s small, it ends, and it feels like early internet.

I load up Lemmy, and see a series of disjointed memes, or a current ongoing meme (like pondering the orb) and absorb that for a short while. I see a couple world news articles, a couple about Trump and a couple about places that aren’t the US. I read an article about Ryzen’s new chips not performing well on Windows and see someone’s retro-gaming setup. Then, after about 10-15 minutes of scrolling, I go “oh hey, I remember this post from yesterday”, and then I close Lemmy because, and this is the important part, I’ve hit the end of new content in my feed.

I still get the news, I still take in a couple memes about the current state of politics, or a celebrity flying her plane altogether too much, but I am never stuck here. There’s no one trying to rage bait me for the sake of user engagement, and any argument I find myself in wraps up and moves on. I don’t feel disconnected, but I am also never completely absorbed, and my life is better for it. Sure, sometimes while I am waiting in a line I load Lemmy only to discover there’s nothing new for me in the hour since I’ve closed it. Sometimes I do the age old, “looking to busy myself”, close Lemmy because there’s nothing to see, immediately open Lemmy because I am looking for something to occupy my Internet poisoned brain. But being bored for a minute here and there is worth it, if it means a lot more free time because I am no longer absorbed in the rat race of infinite scrolling social media.

I think Lemmy is better in a series of ways, but the one that really matters is that it helps me put down my phone, and do things that I enjoy.

borf ,

Reddit is owned and controlled by a corporation (Condé Nast.) They disabled 3rd party Reddit apps to force people onto the official Reddit app which also broke many third party moderation tools. This disproportionately impacted power users, frequent posters, and mods-- in other words, the people who made Reddit the important community it was.

They showed an unwillingness to listen to their community or work with the unpaid volunteer moderators, instead banning the moderators who took part in the Reddit Blackout and replacing them with mods willing to cooperate with the enshittification of the site.

They’ve been mangling the web interface to be uglier and less usable (old.reddit.com is still up, but the mobile version of old.reddit.com is gone). They’ve been experimenting with ways to show more ads and subtler ads.

Lemmy is open source and federated so it can’t get bought up by a company and cored out for shareholder value. You can use different instances, or a variety of apps. You can use (or create your own) third party tools for accessibility and moderation.

Lemmy is currently a smaller universe than Reddit was, but it has a high ratio of good posters and moderators who care personally about their own communities, so hopefully it continues to grow.

db2 ,

Owners:

Advance Publications (30%)
Tencent (11%)
Sam Altman (9%)

Conde hasn’t owned reddit in a while. I assume the remaining percent is the parent company Reddit Inc or stock options or something. Let’s see what that’s worth:

Operating income −US$140 million
Net income −US$90.8 million
Total equity −US$413 million

Yes those are all negative numbers. Why anyone with at least two functioning brain cells who isn’t also a greedy little pigboy would touch reddit stock with a ten foot pole is baffling.

Boozilla ,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

I keep hoping to see Reddit’s stock tank. I think eventually it will. For now, it just highlights how much the stock market is perception / bullshit / glorified gambling. I know savvy experienced investors care about actual value and do careful analysis. But there are a lot of suckers out there who will just buy any cool-sounding “tech stock”.

borf ,

Advance Publications en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Publications

Advance Publications, Inc. is a privately held American media company owned by the families of Donald Newhouse and Samuel Irving Newhouse Jr., the sons of company founder Samuel Irving Newhouse Sr. It owns publishing-relating companies including American City Business Journals, MLive Media Group, and Condé Nast, and is a major shareholder in Charter Communications (13% ownership), Reddit (42 million shares), and Warner Bros. Discovery (8% ownership.)

Potato, potato

db2 ,

Not really because before Conde was the parent with the ability to control and direct, they’re more like a cousin with no input now.

borf ,

Dude I don’t care whose name is on the building, it’s the same effective ownership

Cheradenine ,

Conde hasn’t owned reddit in a while.

That’s only technically true since Advance owns Conde

Rentlar ,

Welcome to Lemmy! Enjoy your stay.

The functions are more or less supposed to be like how Reddit used to be (a link, comment, information and sometimes image aggregator). Here are some differences, though:

  • Many varieties of apps to access the Lemmy API (the reason why many people had migrated from Reddit in 2023 to begin with). It’s even partially compatible with Mastodon apps/accounts (the Fediverse’s closest analogue to Twitter)
  • Power tripping asshole mods and admins exist here just like anywhere else, but they alone can’t ruin all of Lemmy, unlike Reddit. Even the original creators, despite holding a couple of disagreeable and harmful views, has made something that’s larger than themselves.
  • There’s isn’t a dedicated team tied to deepening the owner’s pockets by finding ways to make the experience worse. Development progress is slow but it is continually in the interest of the community.
  • No ads! But please try to support your instance if you can!
  • A public modlog makes a huge difference, even if the mod action originators are still anonymous. By being honest with which of your account(s) were unfairly banned/silenced, you can make a public appeal (just in the form of a post from another instance). If it is a case of the aforementioned power-trippers, extreme bias, or tyrannical rules (but some instances like Beehaw have strict rules for good reason), then it is easy for everyone to see that, and you can make your home on the new Lemmy instance and have a good time. If you’re just a piece of shit troll, that’s also clear as day and then none of the networks will want you and ban you independently or you will get such notoriety that you will be blocked/banned/defederated.
ChocoboRocket ,

Less chat bots on Lemmy, and they seem to be easily identifiable and ignored/reported.

Lemmy isn’t quite at that sweet spot where there are enough daily users to get niche content and information from a group of knowledgeable people - but some communities seem to be quite active and helpful already.

I’d love to get to the point where we have a big science/history community and get some non-celebrity AMA’s that have genuine interaction.

I’m more than happy for Lemmy to stay “underground” for a good while, slowly building communities. Once things hit a critical mass and wind up on corporate radar, lemmy will get swarmed and another migration will happen with the same core groups that joined lemmy early.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not a celebrity. AMA!

barsquid ,

The mods and admins aren’t usually far-right radical preppers, that creates a more pleasant environment.

Bishma ,
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spez has no power here.

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