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ToyotaCorona ,

What is this in reference to?

BombOmOm OP , (edited )
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It’s the current Russian invasion of Ukraine, but name-swapped to the US and Mexico to emphasize how badly the invasion has gone for Russia.

gary_host_laptop ,
@gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

Here you have a list of US Atrocities and a list of US War Crimes.

fist_of_fartitude ,
@fist_of_fartitude@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh, wow, a tankie

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

There were a lot of them in the early days of the Lemmyverse, proportionately speaking. They're in the process of being diluted away by Rexxiters but there's still an unusual concentration in some parts.

Rampsquatch ,

Yup the US has done some nasty shit. Now what does that have to do with the current situation in Ukraine? Do you have a point or are you just being a dink?

Adubya ,
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There is a conflict going on with war crimes RIGHT NOW and your best response is but America Bad. Wow!

Go blow your top somewhere else.

gary_host_laptop ,
@gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

I mean, the US is still illegally occupying Hawai’i, Puerto Rico and there’s Guantanamo in Cuba RIGHT NOW, but your best response is everything the Usonia is doing awfully can wait until we address le ruski baddies.

Adubya ,
@Adubya@lemmy.world avatar

First off, please look at a calendar and check what century we are in. If you can’t recognize current atrocities, then you have no business in discussing past injustices.

You are comparing a US state, US Territory works on voting on statehood, and a US detention center that is state of the art compared to current Russian Filtration/Concentration camps.

Nothing you mentioned compares to this stuff at the moment. We can differ and that is that. I’m not going to downplay the current atrocities, so you feel better about having bad politics that don’t acknowledge human suffering.

Enjoy your whataboutism & but America Bad insanity with someone else.

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gary_host_laptop ,
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Neither Puerto Rico or Hawai’i are Usonian states, they collonies occupied by the US and the simple fact that you think it’s somehow a justification that the US does this but Russia is okay speaks tons about you.

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But yeah, native Hawai’ians opinions are probably just some tankie or some shit to you and a white person needs to decide over them. You are the one doing whataboutism, the US has done shit for the last 200 years, multiple things that are still going on, that can be fix, solvable, that still have repercussions today, but some fucking country over there fucks up with some white Europeans and you lose your shit and everyone should focus their attention over there. Where are you when colonies that need liberation from white Europeans are in need? Where are you when people in West Asia are being massacred by your people? You are crying russia whatever because you can’t own your own shit, you can just point over there and say whatabitism to the Global South.

Desyncpoland ,

Where are you when the CCP commit atrocities?, Where were you when the NK abuses human right?, Where were you when the soviet union send tank to hungary?, Where were you when the holodomor happend?, When were you when…

It’s could go on and on and on.

So america bad when it’s do shit, but if russia, china, and other do it. It’s ok because it’s america fault?.

You could critize US for it’s imperialism but don’t ignore when other countries do it too.

Socsa ,

Bro Hawaii voted to become a state. The pro state movement was native opposition to the plantation owners who didn’t want pesky US laws protecting the natives. Read a book.

gary_host_laptop ,
@gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

Bro, so basically you fucked up a country with plantation owners and the only solution you can provide is to fucking colonize it to not fuck it up so much, but then you end up buiding military bases and military test zones and you fuck up the water and poison the natives. Fuck this imperialist rethoric, by the same logic why don’t you accept that Donetsk is part of Russia, or Crimea, they voted to be part of, but I guess you only agree when you do the imperialism.

ShortBoweledClown ,

What aboutism is such a lazy argument

mysticaldeknoi ,

Now do USSR

Xanthrax ,
@Xanthrax@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you? Don’t see how that’s relevant here.

socialjusticewizard ,

Now imagine one of the front line reasons for continuing to press the attack instead of cutting losses is that the leader of the US feels his masculinity is being challenged.

KiofKi ,
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Very possible with the past one…

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