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Rapidcreek OP ,

"Israel’s acceptance of the terms of a hostage deal with Hamas late on Tuesday reflected the intense pressure brought by the Biden administration to reach an agreement that would free some of those held by the armed group and produce potential longer-term opportunities to de-escalate the conflict,” the New York Times reports.

“The initial approval of the deal by the Israeli cabinet came after a ‘secret cell’ of top aides to President Biden worked furiously over the past several weeks on a web of negotiations involving Qatar, Egypt and Israel, an effort hampered by communications outages in Gaza and a series of last-minute disputes that derailed the talks.”

DoomBot5 ,

“last minute disputes” were probably stuff like “we can’t find all the hostages to release, but we pinky promise we’ll get them to you before the end of the crease fire” -Hamas

deegeese ,

Why are we giving aid to an apartheid state in the first place?

Rapidcreek OP ,

And here I thought we are helping innocent people who were kidnapped by rapists and murders escape their captures. You’re the kind of person who rips their posters off walls aren’t you.

PhlubbaDubba ,

Better than being an Israeli Lebensraum advocate I say!

Rapidcreek OP ,

You don’t think much in life.

PhlubbaDubba ,

Maybe not, but I sure can read a lot!

newyorker.com/…/the-extreme-ambitions-of-west-ban…

At least the Palestinians only want the Jordan and the Mediterranean!

Rapidcreek OP ,

So you think that justifies not rescuing hostages. Read some more.

PhlubbaDubba ,

Your reading skills need improvement friend, literally never said anything about the hostages that Israel is currently bombing the shit out of as if they were already dead because they literally have a military protocol for exactly that.

Why let a few of your own innocent citizens and foreign festival goers get in the way of a good putsch‽

Rapidcreek OP ,

WTF do you think this string is about if not hostages? Some place for you to spout nonsense? Now you are at the they deserved it phase, which is entirely stupid.

PhlubbaDubba ,

The hostages that Netenyahu ordered shut up because they were testifying that they were well treated in captivity?

The hostages that Netenyahu was bombing indiscriminately?

Those hostages, where I stand the greatest threat to their well-being is the country where 1/3rd of Holocaust survivors are impoverished and all of them are referred to as Soap.

Israel is no protector of the Jews, it is their rez boss.

Rapidcreek OP ,

You seem to confuse political action and war with saving innocent people. I really feel sorry for you.

PhlubbaDubba ,

I’d imagine they’re fairly intertwined in a war launched with the intent of going and fucking getting the hostages ya genocide apologizing git.

Rapidcreek OP ,

War has rules. Civilian hostages are against the rules. But, never mind you’ll not be admitting that fact anytime soon. Know what else is against the rules? Raping and murdering civilians.

PhlubbaDubba ,

You know what else is against the rules?

  • Collective punishment,
  • Laying siege,
  • Attacking civilian infrastructure,
  • Instructing your soldiers to commit genocidal rape (quote from the IDFs top Rabbi),
  • Intentionally murdering journalists and aid groups,
  • Intentionally attacking refugee camps,
  • Intentionally attacking civilian convoys, indiscriminate bombing, yes even if you tell them you’re going to do it first with some light air raids just to case the joint and bomb them a little,
  • Disproportionate retaliation which considering how Palestinian dead are now counted in multiples of how many Israelis have been killed by Hamas ever, I’d say has been thoroughly passed.

Nevermind all that though, how about the state that hinges its entire cause on “we are better than them” having a state policy of “hey, they did it to us first! Yay war crimes!”

Turnabout ain’t fair play against war crimes, especially when you’re the supposed vanguard of a democratic values based world order in a region that has struggled since WWII to achieve full democratic governance.

Rapidcreek OP ,

The best you can do is play whatabout. By your measure bin Laden was justified too.

PhlubbaDubba ,

Imax tier projection

Rapidcreek OP ,

Terrorism can not be justified in any form chief.

DoomBot5 ,

Apparently you can’t read. It’s the Jordan River to the Mediterranean, and they want all Jews dead between those.

PhlubbaDubba ,

And what about the Arabs between the Euphrates and the Nile? Do the Israelis intend they get a nice holiday in Tahiti?

Also, Hamas wants the Jews dead, the Palestinians would accept outright annexation and becoming Israelis themselves if it meant having their human rights recognized and not having their hospitals and schools blown up all the time! Fatah was borderline negotiating for that before Netenyahu forgot the definition between a rescue mission and exterminatus.

DoomBot5 ,

Ah, the views of someone who never set foot in the region and has no actual idea of the reality there. Ignorance is bliss.

PhlubbaDubba ,

My grandfather’s family are literally Nakba victims but yeah buddy go off.

Also, exactly what reality makes genocide ok?

DoomBot5 ,

The reality where the term genocide is being twisted so hard just to try and fit your definition into it.

“my grandfather’s family was there, so I’m an expert” is a bullshit excuse. You’re just eating propaganda and regurgitating it.

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