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The wine industry is worried that gen Z and millennials are turning away from the grape, citing cost, health risks and alternatives such as mocktails and marijuana

“Wine just is mid.”

“It’s easier to smoke weed.”

“Alcohol is finally getting the rep it deserves.”

These are just a few of the reasons many young people are going sour on wine, according to a scroll through TikTok or Reddit.

The views lend weight to fears that gen Z and millennials are losing interest in the drink, with potentially disastrous consequences for the wine world. A seemingly endless stream of recent reports have warned that baby boomers, who have fueled the industry, are retiring and spending less, and millennials aren’t picking up the slack.

“You’re looking at a cliff,” the industry analyst Rob McMillan told the San Francisco Chronicle in 2022, following a key report that showed wine consumption in the US hadn’t grown in 2021 – despite bars and restaurants reopening. McMillan foresaw wine consumption by volume declining 20% in the next decade, with millennial habits key to the shift. Last year, Nielsen data showed 45% of gen Zers over 21 said they had never drunk alcohol.

The implications for winemakers are dire; late last month, one of the biggest US wine producers, Vintage Wine Estates, filed for bankruptcy, citing, in part, an “unanticipated steep decrease in demand”. And it’s not the only one facing a precipice: worldwide, wine consumption dropped 2.6% last year, hitting its lowest level since 1996, according to the International Organisation of Vine and Wine. In California, vineyards are getting ripped out; France last year announced it would set aside cash to destroy excess wine.

While the data behind the downturn is complex, industry insiders say it’s time for a change. “Why hinge so much on the way it’s always been?” the wine writer and educator Maiah Johnson Dunn puts it. “We’re just all in this weird limbo figuring out what’s going to happen next.”

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This shift toward other types of drinks, or simply not drinking, rings true for Ellen McNeill, 28, who co-hosts Silverlake Jams, a Los Angeles neighborhood music night that draws a crowd of mostly 24- to 39-year-olds. McNeill, who previously worked for a hard seltzer company, loves wine but sees a number of obstacles to its success among young people – not least the growing variety of alcoholic options, from hard kombucha to pre-mixed, canned cocktails.

Another big one is health – the US generally doesn’t require booze brands to put nutrition facts on their labels, leaving consumers in the dark about what they’re putting in their bodies. When McNeill was marketing the seltzer to potential drinkers, “one of the top questions was: how much sugar does it have? How many calories? Can I see the nutrition?”

Her former employer does detail its nutrition facts, but “wine doesn’t really give a shit about calories. It’s about the taste and the experience.” Indeed, concerns about sugar content seem widespread among those who say they don’t drink wine. (Some on TikTok have linked high sugar to worse hangovers, though experts have suggested it’s not that simple.)

Another is a trend toward avoiding alcohol entirely – it tends to be older guests who drink, she says. “A lot of people do stay way more sober than I initially would have expected.”

That’s in line with a growing focus on the dangers of alcohol. The World Health Organization made no bones about it in April, proclaiming: “No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health.” Between 2005 and 2023, the percentage of Americans who see moderate drinking as bad for you jumped from 22% to 39%, Gallup found. “I’ve heard wineries say it’s just been really challenging to deal with the aftermath” of the WHO statement, says Dunn, who is based in Rochester, New York, with people “scared to even visit sometimes”.

Someonelol ,
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The sulfates in wine can give me a headache before a buzz even settles in. It’s much easier to enjoy a latte and an edible.

Sir_Kevin ,
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Same here. My gf often drinks wine and I have to constantly remind her to hold her glass away from me. That shit’s an instant headache for me.

dogslayeggs ,

As an extremely avid wine drinker (and beer and cocktails), I’m good with this. That shit is too expensive. I just got back from tasting in Burgundy, and the range of prices is wild. One bottle from a specific vineyard costs literally $40,000, but a bottle from grapes 15 feet away costs $250. A bottle from a different producer from the exact same vineyard as the $250 bottle might charge $1000.

Can I tell the difference between a $50 bottle and a $250 bottle? Usually. But is it WORTH the difference? Usually not (but sometimes it is). There’s no chance I could tell enough of a difference between a $250 bottle and a $1000 bottle to make it worth it, regardless of me being unable to afford the more expensive one. I was actually afraid I was going to spoil myself from cheaper wine with this trip to Burgundy, but I ended up finding I’m happy with the wines I can afford and have easy access to.

Anyway, I’d be happy for the price of wine to come down.

otter ,

I hope you enjoyed your trip in other ways, considering the whole theme park song & dance is part of the show going back millennia : wine has always been exclusionary, elitist hype first.

dogslayeggs ,

I did. The trip was a blast. The restaurants are great, and the area is beautiful.

Rentlar ,

It’s a 3 trick pony - red, white and rosé… sure you could probably differentiate $10 wine with $250 wine with the latter generally tasting better, but the baseline range of flavours is the same. Beer is great since you can drink a lot and get a milder buzz, whiskey and spirits get you drunk more instantly, where wine is an in-between that isn’t very appealing. Beer/Cider/Seltzer/Hard Soda types of drinks and Spirits have a great range of flavours in comparison to wine too.

If wineries and breweries want people drinking more, they have to invest in trains (lol), so that they can serve their product on them and we won’t have to worry about drunk drivers.

valek879 ,

You are completely wrong about it being a 3 trick pony. There is tons of variety in wine beyond the color. But I’m not actually here to argue that because I completely agree with your last point. The thing that most often keeps me from drinking is the need to drive home at the end of the night. I don’t want to kill someone and I didn’t want to lose my job (I drive for work) because I went out to drink. So I drink at home which is not a healthy way to drink. So I don’t drink regularly.

If I didn’t have to drive to work I’d walk more which would put me on the ground, passing more bars and restaurants with the option to pop in for a pint and a bite to eat. Then hop on a tram or underground or light rail and head home full and happy. But we can’t have nice things like that in the US because oil rules or politics.

Rentlar ,

Yeah it’s not like I hate wine either, and characterizing as 3 types I agree is a massive oversimplification. It’s just it has fewer elements that interest me to go out of my way for it compared to craft beer and spirits.

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